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There is a small problem with that... jh Send a noteboard - 13/05/2010 10:21:44 AM
Why didn't they? Did they not have the balls of us and Denmark?

(Incidentally, if every country in the Eurozone had had a binding referendum before joining, I wonder how big it would be... How was public opinion in Belgium in 2000-1?)


I think it was written in when Sweden joined the EU (or whatever it was called?) and that both the UK and Denmark were members before the plans of this reached that stage... So while it would undoubtedly be a question of balls if the issue arose, I doubt they judged it important enough during the negotiations for membership. Alcohol policy was much more important back then. :P
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So the list of countries using the euro will grow longer, not shorter... Estonia to join in 2011 Legolas - 12/05/2010 10:51:37 PM 1091 Views
Sounds like a winner Isaac - 12/05/2010 11:07:38 PM 710 Views
You Americans should like Estonia - they're rather neoliberal that way. Legolas - 12/05/2010 11:18:30 PM 906 Views
Apparently we do Isaac - 13/05/2010 05:34:41 PM 753 Views
I liked the remark one Estonian bankofficial made Bramhodoulos - 12/05/2010 11:38:26 PM 667 Views
Re: I liked the remark one Estonian bankofficial made BlackAdder - 12/05/2010 11:42:37 PM 737 Views
I stand corrected than Bramhodoulos - 12/05/2010 11:45:33 PM 622 Views
I do sometimes wish more Belgians would understand that. Legolas - 12/05/2010 11:52:41 PM 608 Views
Re: I do sometimes wish more Belgians would understand that. BlackAdder - 13/05/2010 12:05:03 AM 611 Views
That would be more convincing if universities promoted more social mobility. Legolas - 13/05/2010 12:11:37 AM 739 Views
Social attitudes take a very long time to change. Tim - 13/05/2010 12:28:09 AM 756 Views
We have need-based scholarships. We could extend them. Legolas - 13/05/2010 12:38:31 AM 635 Views
I guess it depends on exactly what the fees are. Tim - 13/05/2010 11:06:37 AM 724 Views
They're low. Too low. Legolas - 13/05/2010 12:12:29 PM 750 Views
American universities do have entrance exams. Sort of. Macharius - 13/05/2010 02:17:13 PM 745 Views
Those are really too lame to count. Legolas - 13/05/2010 02:21:23 PM 794 Views
Re: Those are really too lame to count. Macharius - 13/05/2010 05:04:25 PM 797 Views
typically the more specialized programs require that LadyLorraine - 13/05/2010 05:53:20 PM 706 Views
Re: Those are really too lame to count. BlackAdder - 13/05/2010 07:32:19 PM 805 Views
Like I indicated, I'm not suggesting it in the American system. Legolas - 13/05/2010 07:53:15 PM 800 Views
meh. Most degrees are useless anyway. AgentOrange - 13/05/2010 01:14:54 AM 630 Views
That could be fixed if there weren't such stigma attached to vocational schools. Ghavrel - 13/05/2010 02:18:40 AM 653 Views
Re: That would be more convincing if universities promoted more social mobility. BlackAdder - 13/05/2010 08:08:16 PM 717 Views
Buying a senator helps. Vodalus - 14/05/2010 02:33:44 AM 672 Views
Re: That would be more convincing if universities promoted more social mobility. Legolas - 14/05/2010 11:48:22 AM 720 Views
Is it as late as university? Or is it a good bit earlier? EDIT: Nevermind. Answered elsewhere. Vodalus - 14/05/2010 05:36:50 PM 821 Views
Oh, it's a lot earlier. Legolas - 14/05/2010 06:03:51 PM 774 Views
Re: Is it as late as university? Or is it a good bit earlier? EDIT: Nevermind. Answered elsewhere. BlackAdder - 14/05/2010 07:57:32 PM 655 Views
Re: That would be more convincing if universities promoted more social mobility. BlackAdder - 14/05/2010 08:02:58 PM 774 Views
Come on. jh - 13/05/2010 10:13:29 AM 787 Views
naw most of them are getting degrees in liberal arts because they like to read book more then work *NM* random thoughts - 13/05/2010 02:01:59 PM 263 Views
You ever been to Estonia? If not, stop speaking. *NM* Lordling - 13/05/2010 10:29:17 AM 398 Views
your funny *NM* random thoughts - 13/05/2010 02:01:06 PM 265 Views
Surely Sweden can say, or could have said, that they wouldn't join till they damn well felt like it? Tim - 12/05/2010 11:39:57 PM 661 Views
Apparently Denmark only got the opt-out after rejecting the Maastricht treaty. Legolas - 12/05/2010 11:47:00 PM 702 Views
Good point: it seems to me no-one cares about being Belgian, only Flemish or Walloon . Tim - 12/05/2010 11:51:27 PM 574 Views
It's slightly more subtle than that. Legolas - 13/05/2010 12:00:29 AM 740 Views
What do you think about this suggestion? Tim - 13/05/2010 12:09:02 AM 726 Views
That has been suggested by many, yeah. Legolas - 13/05/2010 12:28:24 AM 739 Views
But before you make a decision like that... Bramhodoulos - 13/05/2010 08:36:07 AM 720 Views
They can export him to another country which needs a king. Wouldn't be the first time. Tim - 13/05/2010 10:57:59 AM 658 Views
We have a Flemish government, though. Legolas - 13/05/2010 12:22:57 PM 758 Views
Hmm, a pan-European entity getting too big and splitting into Eastern and Western administrations... Tim - 13/05/2010 11:09:51 AM 636 Views
That wasn't entirely what I meant. Legolas - 13/05/2010 12:15:14 PM 674 Views
There is one answer to most of those questions Bramhodoulos - 12/05/2010 11:49:46 PM 603 Views
I love that the rest of you have the euro. Tim - 12/05/2010 11:53:10 PM 591 Views
*waits for the Pound to drop and the UK begging for the euro* *NM* Bramhodoulos - 12/05/2010 11:56:25 PM 340 Views
That would be the worst time to do it. Tim - 13/05/2010 12:05:32 AM 692 Views
Well... that is true. But your exports would be really high. Ghavrel - 13/05/2010 12:11:50 AM 635 Views
Also the best time. snoopcester - 13/05/2010 12:11:53 AM 690 Views
I WIN *NM* Ghavrel - 13/05/2010 12:12:51 AM 273 Views
Bah *NM* snoopcester - 13/05/2010 12:18:48 AM 241 Views
It was the best of times, it was the worst of times... *NM* Tim - 13/05/2010 12:19:32 AM 231 Views
I think on the balance, that's probably better than the opposite, but yeah, neither is ideal. *NM* Legolas - 13/05/2010 12:14:23 AM 312 Views
There is a small problem with that... jh - 13/05/2010 10:21:44 AM 590 Views
I found the wikipedia article. Tim - 13/05/2010 10:53:00 AM 782 Views
WOW WHEN DID THE UK CHANGE THEIR COINS Ghavrel - 13/05/2010 12:10:41 AM 692 Views
2008, apparently. Though I don't think we actually saw them until 2009. Tim - 13/05/2010 12:17:46 AM 703 Views
Oh. Okay. I guess the black is just a reflective thing they're doing for the photo. Ghavrel - 13/05/2010 12:37:24 AM 638 Views
I used to use a ten-pound note to inhale...things. Tom - 13/05/2010 05:54:09 AM 649 Views
You have a thing for Charles Darwin? Tim - 13/05/2010 10:45:14 AM 598 Views
From "Mean Mr. Mustard" - "keeps a ten-bob note up his nose...such a mean old man..." Tom - 13/05/2010 02:36:34 PM 631 Views
In that case I'm going to have to disappoint you. Tim - 13/05/2010 02:54:04 PM 760 Views
I knew that, but I had limited options. Tom - 13/05/2010 03:15:07 PM 738 Views
You could try a €500 note. Tim - 13/05/2010 03:18:11 PM 631 Views
In other news, the sky is blue. Legolas - 13/05/2010 03:33:25 PM 659 Views
I seem to remember reading something in 2002 about Germans paying their monthly rent in cash. Tim - 13/05/2010 03:43:35 PM 735 Views
Hm. Possible. Legolas - 13/05/2010 03:50:31 PM 611 Views
Re: In other news, the sky is blue. BlackAdder - 13/05/2010 07:45:06 PM 732 Views
Sheesh...I was just using, not dealing. Tom - 13/05/2010 03:47:05 PM 629 Views
The thrill of decadence? *NM* Tim - 13/05/2010 03:51:21 PM 265 Views
Ooh...I'm sure THAT will shore up the eurozone... *laughs* Tom - 13/05/2010 05:51:12 AM 682 Views
Agreed Balwer - 13/05/2010 12:20:12 PM 654 Views
Nobody said it would. Legolas - 13/05/2010 12:34:27 PM 660 Views
You know what will save the eurozone ? AgentOrange - 13/05/2010 04:55:06 PM 646 Views
You're a little ray of sunshine, aren't you? *NM* Legolas - 13/05/2010 05:10:48 PM 255 Views
Hey man, I don't want Europe to be the next Japan AgentOrange - 13/05/2010 05:42:26 PM 655 Views
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