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Well. Rebekah Send a noteboard - 14/05/2010 01:47:29 PM
While I find it worrying as well, that is more my view on the political right showing though... it has good ties with members of the Conservative party and is fairly reliable for reflecting that.


It seems to me that the magazine likes to throw tanties when people are not doing what it likes. It's difficult to take them seriously.

Also: being reform minded and Eurosceptical are hardly characteristics belonging only to Maggie Thatcher. It's rather infantile to suggest that they are, and that comment you quoted reeks of hyperbole.

That's a little scary, yes. Some former Lib Dem chappy says everyone's over-reacting about that, but I guess he has to say that.

Yeah, I am currently leaning more to it being a screw up where the intent was purely to secure the coalition in place through till the end of the term but no one stopped to consider what the actual implication of what they were doing was.

It does seem to be a unifying issue, from the coverage today pretty much everyone is against it who hasn't bought into the coalition be they on the right or the left.


I've been reading a little more, and I don't think it's as bad as it seemed at first.

The first point against the hysteria is that it isn't about votes of no confidence, which Labour etc are saying it is. The no confidence set up stays at 50% +1.

The 55% is for dissolving the parliament and calling a new election. Seems a tolerable move if you want fixed terms. However, I agree that it certainly seems to be a somewhat desperate grab to retain power should the coalition crumble. Curious, though, that the Lib Dems are so happy to support it when really it would be about keeping power in the Conservatives' hands.

Re fixed terms: 5 years is definitely too long. Maybe 4 or 4.5 would be better.
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Her 101 reasons to love our Tory government was even better. Legolas - 13/05/2010 12:42:39 PM 881 Views
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That has been used a few times now snoopcester - 13/05/2010 01:27:50 PM 761 Views
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I do like one of the comments especially The Shrike - 13/05/2010 07:03:15 PM 751 Views
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What an even-handed, stereotype-free, and balanced piece of journalism. *NM* Tim - 13/05/2010 02:07:35 PM 435 Views
Yup. *NM* Camilla - 13/05/2010 02:09:35 PM 378 Views
Oh, come on. It's a humourous column. Legolas - 13/05/2010 02:23:16 PM 845 Views
Re: Oh, come on. It's a humourous column. Camilla - 13/05/2010 02:30:41 PM 871 Views
Just politely ask them to leave. Joel - 13/05/2010 02:16:53 PM 760 Views
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Your partisanship is getting annoying, actually. The Shrike - 13/05/2010 06:55:28 PM 951 Views
I'm Rebekah and I endorse this comment. Rebekah - 13/05/2010 08:10:03 PM 868 Views
While everyone is entitled to their opinion Balwer - 13/05/2010 08:28:59 PM 881 Views
Re: While everyone is entitled to their opinion Camilla - 13/05/2010 09:28:36 PM 839 Views
I'm sorry I care about politics. Camilla - 13/05/2010 08:45:26 PM 886 Views
It's easy to complain. Actually doing something is rather more difficult. *NM* Ghavrel - 13/05/2010 10:17:47 PM 368 Views
What do you suggest I do, pray tell? *NM* Camilla - 13/05/2010 10:19:30 PM 368 Views
Learn how to live with people who disagree with you. Ghavrel - 13/05/2010 10:21:08 PM 792 Views
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Do you really spell it "superiour" in Britain? That's wonderful. Ghavrel - 13/05/2010 10:37:21 PM 941 Views
Pretty please with sugar on top Camilla - 13/05/2010 10:50:48 PM 853 Views
Meh. That wasn't meant to be condescending. I never expected the ou to enter that word, is all. Ghavrel - 13/05/2010 11:02:11 PM 835 Views
Re: Meh. That wasn't meant to be condescending. I never expected the ou to enter that word, is all. Camilla - 13/05/2010 11:03:42 PM 800 Views
Yeah, um, that wasn't me. Ghavrel - 13/05/2010 11:08:48 PM 850 Views
Re: Yeah, um, that wasn't me. Camilla - 13/05/2010 11:11:04 PM 810 Views
I don't mind transference of anger, but let's keep my quotes accurate at least. Ghavrel - 13/05/2010 11:15:37 PM 827 Views
See, this is what I find offensive Camilla - 13/05/2010 11:21:28 PM 822 Views
Fair enough. It was unfair of me to use "learn." Ghavrel - 13/05/2010 11:30:34 PM 791 Views
Re: Fair enough. It was unfair of me to use "learn." Camilla - 13/05/2010 11:32:29 PM 800 Views
That's kind of my point, though. Ghavrel - 13/05/2010 11:33:51 PM 768 Views
Two posts in three days about a new Government in the country? snoopcester - 13/05/2010 11:18:06 PM 847 Views
This is so true Wibble - 13/05/2010 11:29:30 PM 791 Views
Re: This is so true Camilla - 13/05/2010 11:36:44 PM 809 Views
I could be Tory enough for both of us, if you like. Rebekah - 13/05/2010 11:45:41 PM 833 Views
Sorry. But I can't bring myself to vote for 'that bloody party' Wibble - 13/05/2010 11:48:26 PM 814 Views
Re: Sorry. But I can't bring myself to vote for 'that bloody party' Camilla - 13/05/2010 11:54:10 PM 789 Views
I hereby invite myself to the said discussion. *NM* Tim - 14/05/2010 12:13:34 PM 345 Views
I certainly wouldn't go that far. Nowhere near. *NM* Rebekah - 13/05/2010 11:43:20 PM 427 Views
On the comparison or on you people's spelling? *NM* Ghavrel - 14/05/2010 12:13:42 AM 377 Views
On the comparison. Rebekah - 14/05/2010 01:08:17 PM 848 Views
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Not for a good few centuries. *NM* Tim - 14/05/2010 12:19:36 PM 396 Views
They were not delivered condescendingly. I am sorry you took it as such. The Shrike - 13/05/2010 11:50:23 PM 774 Views
Re: They were not delivered condescendingly. I am sorry you took it as such. Camilla - 13/05/2010 11:53:08 PM 824 Views
Eh, another time then. The Shrike - 13/05/2010 11:56:21 PM 841 Views
Re: Eh, another time then. Camilla - 14/05/2010 12:04:12 AM 827 Views
Oh well. The Shrike - 14/05/2010 02:48:51 AM 866 Views
I was gonna make a post with precisely the same title as Camilla's. So: Oh, come on. Legolas - 13/05/2010 10:43:12 PM 924 Views
thank you. Camilla - 13/05/2010 10:46:38 PM 790 Views
Re: I was gonna make a post with precisely the same title as Camilla's. So: Oh, come on. Ghavrel - 13/05/2010 10:59:28 PM 835 Views
Re: I was gonna make a post with precisely the same title as Camilla's. So: Oh, come on. Legolas - 13/05/2010 11:16:07 PM 939 Views
I dunno. It looks to me that's what Balwer was saying with his flogged horse comment. Ghavrel - 13/05/2010 11:18:30 PM 742 Views
I'm sorry you care more about your own political agenda than about trying to see a party in power The Shrike - 13/05/2010 11:44:32 PM 769 Views
You think Tories won't go proto-Orwellian on you? Camilla - 13/05/2010 11:46:45 PM 765 Views
If both, theoretically, will abuse power, then The Shrike - 13/05/2010 11:54:53 PM 849 Views
Re: If both, theoretically, will abuse power, then Camilla - 13/05/2010 11:58:17 PM 825 Views
If not a fan of Labour and not a fan of Tory, then The Shrike - 14/05/2010 12:01:37 AM 837 Views
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A date "in a year's time" will be easy to remember. We have Scottish elections on 5 May 2011. Tim - 14/05/2010 12:12:26 PM 744 Views
Lets be honest Wibble - 14/05/2010 12:11:44 AM 862 Views
True fact. *NM* Rebekah - 14/05/2010 12:12:36 AM 391 Views
Very true, however Mark - 14/05/2010 03:54:21 PM 885 Views
Surely a good part of that is just humour, though? Legolas - 14/05/2010 12:25:21 AM 761 Views
Part of it, yes. Rebekah - 14/05/2010 08:43:12 AM 839 Views
People are saying it because those with a good knowledge of the party are telling them that. snoopcester - 14/05/2010 11:40:25 AM 883 Views
Re: People are saying it because those with a good knowledge of the party are telling them that. Rebekah - 14/05/2010 01:05:44 PM 833 Views
Re: People are saying it because those with a good knowledge of the party are telling them that. snoopcester - 14/05/2010 01:28:38 PM 960 Views
Well. Rebekah - 14/05/2010 01:47:29 PM 1310 Views
Re: Well. snoopcester - 14/05/2010 02:58:57 PM 1209 Views
It's the only way to judge a political party Mark - 14/05/2010 04:10:26 PM 784 Views
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