And it is those postal saving accounts that are screwing japan over
Roland00 Send a noteboard - 08/06/2010 05:00:41 PM
Japan may have great savings levels, but where it puts those savings to work, its investments are extremely ineffective. Thus you don't get investments that really grow the economy, that increase total factor productivity of its economy. The reason why those saving dollars are not chasing the most effective investments is due to the iron triangle that japan has LDP, the Keiretsu (incestuous businesses), and bloated Beaurcracy.
Pretty much since WW2. The LDP always won elections (till 2007) because of how Japan's districts are drawn (not buy population but buy land area), thus the rural but unpopulous districts have all the political power. Japan's LDP then has the Japan's postal banks to do infrastructure projects in the middle of nowhere, in Japan's version of pork barrel spending. Thus these investments have very little return on investment, they don't grow the economy, but they continue due to political manifestations.
At the same time the Keiretsu, Japanesse business are way too incestuous. Pretty much Kerietsu are there own little monopoly with their own little bank that only lends to the Kerietsu businesses. Unfortunately when parts of the Kerietsu were underperforming or dead businesses walking, instead of killing those parts the good performing parts of the Kerietsu reinvested money into these zombie industries, thus dragging down the Kerietsu growth.
I don't think I need to explain bureaucracy and how it can be a drag on growth
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In sum, in my mind Japan's economy is
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Because of all this Japan's economy has barely grown since 1990. If the economy does grow than debt doesn't get paid off.
Luckily things are finally changing (why it took 18 to 20 years instead of 5 or 10 years is beyond me). The LDP lost the 2007 upper house, yet the current prime minister resigned but he was only replaced by a new LDP prime minister. Kerietsus are weaker and less incestous than before due to non Kerietsus Japanese business outpeforming them. The post office of japan will be completely privatized by 2017, there are new bankruptcy laws, etc.
Pretty much since WW2. The LDP always won elections (till 2007) because of how Japan's districts are drawn (not buy population but buy land area), thus the rural but unpopulous districts have all the political power. Japan's LDP then has the Japan's postal banks to do infrastructure projects in the middle of nowhere, in Japan's version of pork barrel spending. Thus these investments have very little return on investment, they don't grow the economy, but they continue due to political manifestations.
At the same time the Keiretsu, Japanesse business are way too incestuous. Pretty much Kerietsu are there own little monopoly with their own little bank that only lends to the Kerietsu businesses. Unfortunately when parts of the Kerietsu were underperforming or dead businesses walking, instead of killing those parts the good performing parts of the Kerietsu reinvested money into these zombie industries, thus dragging down the Kerietsu growth.
I don't think I need to explain bureaucracy and how it can be a drag on growth

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In sum, in my mind Japan's economy is

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Because of all this Japan's economy has barely grown since 1990. If the economy does grow than debt doesn't get paid off.
Luckily things are finally changing (why it took 18 to 20 years instead of 5 or 10 years is beyond me). The LDP lost the 2007 upper house, yet the current prime minister resigned but he was only replaced by a new LDP prime minister. Kerietsus are weaker and less incestous than before due to non Kerietsus Japanese business outpeforming them. The post office of japan will be completely privatized by 2017, there are new bankruptcy laws, etc.
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08/06/2010 04:07:29 AM
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Didn't we just talk about this?
08/06/2010 04:11:18 AM
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Not exactly.....
08/06/2010 04:18:51 AM
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It's hard to take seriously...
08/06/2010 05:13:48 AM
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So, in order to save money, we have to spend more money.....got it.
08/06/2010 05:21:59 AM
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You have heard of the concept of "investment" right?
08/06/2010 04:49:44 PM
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so you approve of war spending and tax cuts? *NM*
08/06/2010 05:24:56 PM
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I don't think I said that...
08/06/2010 07:04:18 PM
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why is it sunk cost? The money my son earned in Iraq he spent here in the US
08/06/2010 07:19:59 PM
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On the other hand...
08/06/2010 08:31:37 AM
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There are some important differences between Japan and the US, though.
08/06/2010 02:56:56 PM
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And it is those postal saving accounts that are screwing japan over
08/06/2010 05:00:41 PM
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My point was that Japan's public debt is offset somewhat by its high level of private savings.
08/06/2010 06:36:32 PM
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And here's a chart to put the numbers into a better historical perspective.
08/06/2010 04:49:42 AM
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Wow, the most debt since WWII, which isn't even a good comparison.....
08/06/2010 05:25:49 AM
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I have decided you know nothing about economics
09/06/2010 12:13:31 AM
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get trzaska some credit
09/06/2010 12:16:11 AM
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unsupported insults really are just so much noise *NM*
09/06/2010 05:01:05 AM
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Re: unsupported insults really are just so much noise
09/06/2010 07:56:48 AM
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so you were going to say something really smart but decided not to
09/06/2010 03:26:16 PM
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HA! HA! Summed up very nicely.....mick is just like Eric Cartman.
09/06/2010 03:34:56 PM
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