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while the specific demographics discussed are certainly worth questioning... LadyLorraine Send a noteboard - 26/07/2010 05:48:30 PM
the general idea that different views on family and marriage that come from a more "Traditional" upbringing versus a more "Now" upbringing are a huge factor in the debate on homosexual marriage.

Frankly, people should argue more from that standpoint even if it doesn't necessarily hold great water. it's still a better argument than "the bible says X".
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Red Families, Blue Families, Gay Families, and the Search for a New Normal Roland00 - 24/07/2010 05:56:09 AM 682 Views
This guy needs an editor. "Alright" is not all right. *NM* Ghavrel - 24/07/2010 07:44:40 AM 74 Views
Is that really all you have to say about that article? Tim - 24/07/2010 12:14:11 PM 179 Views
When I'm on my iPhone I'm limited to short snark. Ghavrel - 24/07/2010 10:21:48 PM 186 Views
Mmm, really though... LadyLorraine - 24/07/2010 10:55:46 PM 167 Views
It's a shame forum posts don't have "Sent from my iPhone" at the bottom like e-mails do. Tim - 25/07/2010 12:00:12 AM 171 Views
What, so we can have the excuse for writing shitty posts? Ghavrel - 25/07/2010 01:52:01 AM 173 Views
I understand a lot of black people oppose gay marriage. Tim - 25/07/2010 01:02:18 PM 167 Views
I understand a lot of black people oppose gay marriage. Tim - 25/07/2010 01:02:19 PM 171 Views
Two things Roland00 - 25/07/2010 01:43:56 PM 169 Views
You shouldn't underestimate the power of religion in Africa as well. Legolas - 25/07/2010 01:51:59 PM 157 Views
BS it is culture not religion Roland00 - 25/07/2010 03:21:59 AM 177 Views
Five high-profile atheists against gay marriage. Go. *NM* Ghavrel - 25/07/2010 04:22:57 AM 92 Views
China *NM* Roland00 - 25/07/2010 04:51:43 AM 78 Views
...well played. *NM* Ghavrel - 25/07/2010 04:55:33 AM 80 Views
That's a fascinating insight, although it does set my "oversimplification" alarm bells ringing. Tim - 24/07/2010 01:02:38 PM 200 Views
I agree that it seems overly simplified LadyLorraine - 24/07/2010 03:26:13 PM 185 Views
what do you mean don't assciate red/blue with republican/democrat? random thoughts - 26/07/2010 04:34:18 PM 151 Views
I know, but in the context of what he's discussing... LadyLorraine - 26/07/2010 05:43:29 PM 150 Views
that is like trying to separate wet and water random thoughts - 26/07/2010 06:29:48 PM 156 Views
I'm thinking a bit outside his actual article LadyLorraine - 26/07/2010 08:32:09 PM 151 Views
very interesting read LadyLorraine - 24/07/2010 03:27:41 PM 152 Views
This is a very interesting subject. I'll link to an older article inside. Dreaded Anomaly - 24/07/2010 05:50:47 PM 175 Views
Shit that new yorker article is almost 2 years old Roland00 - 25/07/2010 05:25:20 AM 166 Views
You pre-empted one of the comments I was going to make... Legolas - 25/07/2010 12:12:56 AM 188 Views
Try reading the article to which I linked in the post above yours. Dreaded Anomaly - 25/07/2010 03:01:21 AM 163 Views
In america once you account inflation and after taxes Roland00 - 25/07/2010 05:16:35 AM 165 Views
Not sure what the relevance of that to my post is? Legolas - 25/07/2010 10:52:29 AM 157 Views
You were saying Roland00 - 25/07/2010 01:38:12 PM 157 Views
My point on that topic was... Legolas - 25/07/2010 01:50:19 PM 166 Views
I nor the author never said the word failure Roland00 - 25/07/2010 02:45:11 PM 154 Views
Okay, well, my points are there, if you ever want to react to them, feel free. Legolas - 25/07/2010 04:54:21 PM 159 Views
Red/blue assumptions here are likely a mistake Isaac - 25/07/2010 01:43:18 AM 204 Views
I'd be interested to see the reasons why you assert that "most people don't really like gays." Ghavrel - 25/07/2010 01:56:30 AM 174 Views
You'd only ever get anecdotal proof Isaac - 25/07/2010 02:15:54 AM 172 Views
in some instances, it's totally legit to dislike a fat person LadyLorraine - 25/07/2010 04:19:40 AM 169 Views
In that case, then, I disagree with you. Ghavrel - 25/07/2010 04:25:38 AM 158 Views
Well, like I said I think you're mistaking my meaning on that Isaac - 25/07/2010 05:12:45 AM 160 Views
most people don't really like most people, period. LadyLorraine - 25/07/2010 04:15:58 AM 150 Views
how many people in your generation use "that is so gay" as a compliment? random thoughts - 26/07/2010 02:33:12 PM 178 Views
and article that uses "Red families and Blues Families" as it basis really can't be taken seriously random thoughts - 26/07/2010 02:59:20 PM 160 Views
I'm not disagreeing with your whole post, but two important points... Legolas - 26/07/2010 04:43:55 PM 165 Views
Well, Cahn and Carbone aren't experts in the field either Isaac - 26/07/2010 05:25:50 PM 160 Views
while the specific demographics discussed are certainly worth questioning... LadyLorraine - 26/07/2010 05:48:30 PM 177 Views
the study he builds his argument around is not worth questioning random thoughts - 26/07/2010 06:43:21 PM 151 Views
I agree with you mostly LadyLorraine - 26/07/2010 08:28:04 PM 158 Views
My personal definition is a man and woman wanting to raise children or at least build a life togeth random thoughts - 26/07/2010 10:22:35 PM 160 Views
All of that is quite sensible. LadyLorraine - 26/07/2010 11:47:10 PM 155 Views
Interesting. Legolas - 26/07/2010 06:40:44 PM 163 Views
just to be nit picky myself random thoughts - 26/07/2010 06:48:56 PM 151 Views
Correct, the median age factor was also ignored Isaac - 26/07/2010 07:28:19 PM 177 Views
I think those points support my argument random thoughts - 26/07/2010 06:16:29 PM 157 Views
Re: I think those points support my argument Legolas - 26/07/2010 06:31:34 PM 152 Views
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