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well put *NM* Camilla Send a noteboard - 29/08/2010 06:57:45 PM
I'd like you to find even ten examples where a Church has been used as a recruiting ground for terrorist groups in the last ten years.

If you can't, then quite frankly your analogy is both false and purposely misleading.

After the Oklahoma City bombings a lot of different militia groups with far right Christian ideologies sprang up thinking it was the end of the world and the government was going to round them up and throw them in concentration camps. These groups were often quite violent-minded and had the clear intention of performing violence against the government. There were several arrests in Michigan near where I live, one group was going to blow up an expressway. The newest incarnation of these whack jobs are the Hutaree, but really the Hutaree aren't all that different form the groups that sprang up in the 90s.

You may call people like them and Fred Phelps fringe or radicals yet they all practice Christianity and operate as Christians with ideologies THEY seem to find in the Bible. The fact is, it happens in every religion. The Hews have their radicals, the Hindus and Buddhists have their radical (Buddhists invented suicide bombing), and Christians and Muslims do too.

Again, the best way to avoid radical ideologies is to discuss the new mosque/s with the leaders of the group and make sure they are on the up and up and then help them integrate into the community. Instead, in many places no one in the community is even talking to them or discussing what it is they want to do there, they are just protesting because of some rumor that bunches of mosques are centers for radicalization - something pretty much not true.

Then again, scared people historically typically act stupid. I guess some things never do change.
*MySmiley*
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This message last edited by Camilla on 29/08/2010 at 07:11:07 PM
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Arson at future Islamic Center site 'takes it to a whole new level' - 29/08/2010 04:54:42 AM 1223 Views
Don't get too worried. Not every mosque in America is under attack. Take a breath - 29/08/2010 06:25:31 AM 679 Views
Re: Don't get too worried. Not every mosque in America is under attack. Take a breath - 29/08/2010 08:33:10 AM 677 Views
You have to be kidding. Or I wish you were anyway. - 29/08/2010 03:13:42 PM 696 Views
I think this is what she is refering to - 29/08/2010 03:39:41 PM 859 Views
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That was incredibly vague. Fence sitter. *NM* - 29/08/2010 07:37:47 PM 258 Views
churches temples and mosqes are often vandalized all of the country - 29/08/2010 07:58:15 PM 564 Views
*NM* - 29/08/2010 12:24:14 PM 330 Views
I agree. A new way of life. the place you want to feel safe. - 30/08/2010 02:29:41 AM 617 Views
It's unfortunate. - 29/08/2010 02:41:08 PM 730 Views
Re: It's unfortunate. - 29/08/2010 02:58:29 PM 653 Views
I don't think it's that simple. - 29/08/2010 03:45:44 PM 577 Views
And you just missed my point completely. - 29/08/2010 04:00:59 PM 676 Views
I won't bother. - 29/08/2010 11:19:17 PM 617 Views
An epiphany - 29/08/2010 11:33:19 PM 688 Views
those facts are not that easy to find - 29/08/2010 10:56:55 PM 742 Views
Are there no books in America? *NM* - 29/08/2010 10:59:00 PM 270 Views
public libraries are a socialist conspiracy *NM* - 30/08/2010 01:22:33 AM 259 Views
Lots of those books show the history of Islam... - 30/08/2010 01:24:34 AM 723 Views
you mean - 30/08/2010 01:27:04 AM 609 Views
Re: you mean - 30/08/2010 01:29:35 AM 666 Views
Re: you mean - 30/08/2010 01:32:01 AM 640 Views
Re: you mean - 30/08/2010 02:07:19 AM 669 Views
Yes - 30/08/2010 12:47:29 PM 644 Views
congrats! - 30/08/2010 03:29:41 AM 736 Views
what a well thought out reply *NM* - 30/08/2010 03:18:40 PM 254 Views
I thought her reply was too short too, but she does have a point. - 30/08/2010 04:23:01 PM 838 Views
Replies are short for a reason. - 30/08/2010 07:46:20 PM 629 Views
apperantly Fox News - 30/08/2010 08:32:28 PM 614 Views
heheheheheeheheheeheHEHAHEHAHAHAHAHAAHAAHAHAaheheheheheheh - 30/08/2010 08:35:19 PM 659 Views
it would be funny if most liberals didn't really believe it was true - 30/08/2010 08:49:58 PM 635 Views
how about the thousands upon thousands of Muslims who haven't done anything? *NM* - 30/08/2010 08:51:36 PM 286 Views
lets make that millions upon millions. *NM* - 30/08/2010 11:20:32 PM 251 Views
Pfft - 30/08/2010 11:38:34 PM 649 Views
And my point was that maybe people need to get off their duffs - 31/08/2010 12:39:42 AM 638 Views
Re: those facts are not that easy to find - 30/08/2010 01:16:09 AM 649 Views
Now aisha, you know full well you're personally responsible for all of the middle east. - 30/08/2010 12:29:36 PM 661 Views
well she hasn't done much to sell the idea that Muslims are moderate *NM* - 30/08/2010 04:19:40 PM 298 Views
umm ok. *NM* - 30/08/2010 06:50:51 PM 291 Views
but she does not represent Islam. - 30/08/2010 07:12:20 PM 546 Views
less fallacious than claiming the country xenophobic because some morons torched a bulldozer *NM* - 30/08/2010 08:51:50 PM 238 Views
I think that would be 'equally' fallacious. *NM* - 31/08/2010 05:29:38 AM 272 Views
perception is reality in politics - 30/08/2010 04:18:59 PM 718 Views
Sure they are, you just can't cherry pick your sourcess. - 02/09/2010 04:20:20 PM 805 Views
Wow - that's paranoid - 29/08/2010 03:00:09 PM 692 Views
That's absurd. - 29/08/2010 03:47:31 PM 663 Views
how're you defining terrorist? - 29/08/2010 04:05:23 PM 673 Views
You are too young to remember the Christian Militia groups of the 1990s here in America. - 29/08/2010 06:51:55 PM 702 Views
well put *NM* - 29/08/2010 06:57:45 PM 695 Views
agreed. *NM* - 29/08/2010 07:04:14 PM 271 Views
That isn't a valid comparison - 29/08/2010 10:39:32 PM 679 Views
It's really not - 30/08/2010 03:25:07 AM 600 Views
Facts? - 30/08/2010 05:53:17 AM 610 Views
Your mind is already made up - no sense confusing you with facts - 31/08/2010 03:34:26 PM 694 Views
There are approximately 1,400 mosques in the U.S. Please name me 14 that have radicalized people. - 29/08/2010 06:41:39 PM 714 Views
14? Easy - 29/08/2010 07:31:24 PM 730 Views
Er... - 29/08/2010 08:01:50 PM 585 Views
Yeah, not a very subtle name - 29/08/2010 08:34:53 PM 633 Views
Re: Yeah, not a very subtle name - 30/08/2010 03:21:54 AM 684 Views
Re: Yeah, not a very subtle name - 30/08/2010 04:31:09 AM 722 Views
Re: It's unfortunate. - 30/08/2010 09:51:10 AM 940 Views
Re: It's unfortunate. - 30/08/2010 02:33:29 PM 765 Views

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