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Re: It's unfortunate. Dragonsoul Send a noteboard - 30/08/2010 02:33:29 PM
I wouldn't say the blame for getting their mosque torched is on them. That's a bit crazy. I agree that the peaceful Islam community could speak up more loudly against the black sheep among them, though. But see my last sentence below.


Did I say the blame was on them? No. What i said was that the blame was on those Muslims who "se mosques and Islamic centers as recruitment and training grounds for terrorists, because had they never done that, no one would be worried about it now to the point that they're ready to burn the place down."

Westerners can't be blamed for their fear. But they can be blamed for going out and actually attacking what they fear, instead of thinking twice if they are actually hitting the right target.
Thinking in extremes will always cause fear and anger, things are not that easy in today's world.

Also, each time Islam is trying to a build a community center where they can teach and educate about the real ways of the religion, people get picky about the location ;)


Thats because people don't want to centers near them, and seeing the stuff that gets spewed out of some of them, I'm inclined not to blame them. How do you know what they'll say?
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Arson at future Islamic Center site 'takes it to a whole new level' Aisha - 29/08/2010 04:54:42 AM 1223 Views
That is quite pitiful. What a douche, I hope the community there turns and supports them. *NM* everynametaken - 29/08/2010 05:10:43 AM 334 Views
Don't get too worried. Not every mosque in America is under attack. Take a breath Dark Knight - 29/08/2010 06:25:31 AM 679 Views
Re: Don't get too worried. Not every mosque in America is under attack. Take a breath Aisha - 29/08/2010 08:33:10 AM 677 Views
You have to be kidding. Or I wish you were anyway. Tashmere - 29/08/2010 03:13:42 PM 696 Views
I think this is what she is refering to snoopcester - 29/08/2010 03:39:41 PM 859 Views
everynametaken - 29/08/2010 06:31:34 PM 686 Views
That was incredibly vague. Fence sitter. *NM* Tashmere - 29/08/2010 07:37:47 PM 258 Views
churches temples and mosqes are often vandalized all of the country random thoughts - 29/08/2010 07:58:15 PM 564 Views
*NM* Avendesora - 29/08/2010 12:24:14 PM 331 Views
I agree. A new way of life. the place you want to feel safe. StarrBecca - 30/08/2010 02:29:41 AM 617 Views
It's unfortunate. Dragonsoul - 29/08/2010 02:41:08 PM 730 Views
Re: It's unfortunate. Camilla - 29/08/2010 02:58:29 PM 653 Views
I don't think it's that simple. Dragonsoul - 29/08/2010 03:45:44 PM 577 Views
And you just missed my point completely. Camilla - 29/08/2010 04:00:59 PM 676 Views
I won't bother. Dragonsoul - 29/08/2010 11:19:17 PM 617 Views
An epiphany Camilla - 29/08/2010 11:33:19 PM 688 Views
those facts are not that easy to find random thoughts - 29/08/2010 10:56:55 PM 742 Views
Are there no books in America? *NM* Camilla - 29/08/2010 10:59:00 PM 270 Views
public libraries are a socialist conspiracy *NM* Aisha - 30/08/2010 01:22:33 AM 259 Views
Lots of those books show the history of Islam... MightyYT - 30/08/2010 01:24:34 AM 723 Views
you mean nossy - 30/08/2010 01:27:04 AM 609 Views
Re: you mean Camilla - 30/08/2010 01:29:35 AM 666 Views
Re: you mean MightyYT - 30/08/2010 01:32:01 AM 640 Views
Re: you mean nossy - 30/08/2010 02:07:19 AM 669 Views
Yes snoopcester - 30/08/2010 12:47:29 PM 644 Views
congrats! Aisha - 30/08/2010 03:29:41 AM 736 Views
what a well thought out reply *NM* random thoughts - 30/08/2010 03:18:40 PM 255 Views
I thought her reply was too short too, but she does have a point. nossy - 30/08/2010 04:23:01 PM 839 Views
Replies are short for a reason. Camilla - 30/08/2010 07:46:20 PM 629 Views
apperantly Fox News random thoughts - 30/08/2010 08:32:28 PM 614 Views
heheheheheeheheheeheHEHAHEHAHAHAHAHAAHAAHAHAaheheheheheheh Camilla - 30/08/2010 08:35:19 PM 660 Views
it would be funny if most liberals didn't really believe it was true random thoughts - 30/08/2010 08:49:58 PM 635 Views
how about the thousands upon thousands of Muslims who haven't done anything? *NM* LadyLorraine - 30/08/2010 08:51:36 PM 286 Views
lets make that millions upon millions. *NM* Aisha - 30/08/2010 11:20:32 PM 252 Views
Pfft snoopcester - 30/08/2010 11:38:34 PM 649 Views
And my point was that maybe people need to get off their duffs nossy - 31/08/2010 12:39:42 AM 638 Views
Re: those facts are not that easy to find Aisha - 30/08/2010 01:16:09 AM 649 Views
Now aisha, you know full well you're personally responsible for all of the middle east. LadyLorraine - 30/08/2010 12:29:36 PM 661 Views
well she hasn't done much to sell the idea that Muslims are moderate *NM* random thoughts - 30/08/2010 04:19:40 PM 298 Views
umm ok. *NM* Aisha - 30/08/2010 06:50:51 PM 291 Views
but she does not represent Islam. LadyLorraine - 30/08/2010 07:12:20 PM 546 Views
less fallacious than claiming the country xenophobic because some morons torched a bulldozer *NM* random thoughts - 30/08/2010 08:51:50 PM 238 Views
I think that would be 'equally' fallacious. *NM* MightyYT - 31/08/2010 05:29:38 AM 272 Views
perception is reality in politics random thoughts - 30/08/2010 04:18:59 PM 718 Views
Sure they are, you just can't cherry pick your sourcess. Joel - 02/09/2010 04:20:20 PM 805 Views
Wow - that's paranoid SilverWarder - 29/08/2010 03:00:09 PM 692 Views
That's absurd. Dragonsoul - 29/08/2010 03:47:31 PM 663 Views
how're you defining terrorist? LadyLorraine - 29/08/2010 04:05:23 PM 673 Views
You are too young to remember the Christian Militia groups of the 1990s here in America. everynametaken - 29/08/2010 06:51:55 PM 702 Views
well put *NM* Camilla - 29/08/2010 06:57:45 PM 695 Views
agreed. *NM* LadyLorraine - 29/08/2010 07:04:14 PM 271 Views
If we break that down to approximate percentages, that analogy is much less impressive/believable. *NM* Zalis - 29/08/2010 09:21:44 PM 308 Views
That isn't a valid comparison random thoughts - 29/08/2010 10:39:32 PM 679 Views
Yes, but everyone uses the abortion bombing example. I was offering somethign different. everynametaken - 30/08/2010 03:18:19 AM 774 Views
It's really not SilverWarder - 30/08/2010 03:25:07 AM 600 Views
Facts? Dragonsoul - 30/08/2010 05:53:17 AM 610 Views
Your mind is already made up - no sense confusing you with facts SilverWarder - 31/08/2010 03:34:26 PM 694 Views
There are approximately 1,400 mosques in the U.S. Please name me 14 that have radicalized people. everynametaken - 29/08/2010 06:41:39 PM 714 Views
14? Easy Isaac - 29/08/2010 07:31:24 PM 730 Views
Er... Legolas - 29/08/2010 08:01:50 PM 585 Views
Yeah, not a very subtle name Isaac - 29/08/2010 08:34:53 PM 633 Views
Re: Yeah, not a very subtle name everynametaken - 30/08/2010 03:21:54 AM 684 Views
Re: Yeah, not a very subtle name Isaac - 30/08/2010 04:31:09 AM 722 Views
Re: It's unfortunate. ironclad - 30/08/2010 09:51:10 AM 940 Views
Re: It's unfortunate. Dragonsoul - 30/08/2010 02:33:29 PM 766 Views
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