Well, my tripes with it are a little in line with that
MalkierKnight Send a noteboard - 05/09/2010 01:26:56 AM
Whether or not you agree with such things, that is the case. Personally, I don't like it and I'm glad that it wasn't the school's decision as it seems she was important to the students, but she knew what she signed when she signed it and knew the risk she was taking. Once again, I do NOT like it, but I'm not going to get up in arms about it either. She took a job at a catholic institution--knowing the catholic stance on homosexuality--and made a "public" action against their stance, knowing it was against her contract. Of course, I'm so-so on how public a marriage is, but the qualifications in most places for a "common law" marriage tends to entail publicly behaving and ascribing to "being married", so I'm not going to get in a fuss over it.
The part I like the least is that they seemed to have pushed her to resign instead of be fired...you tend not to receive unemployment when you've resigned, although I'm not sure you would have for being fired due to a breech of contract either.
The part I like the least is that they seemed to have pushed her to resign instead of be fired...you tend not to receive unemployment when you've resigned, although I'm not sure you would have for being fired due to a breech of contract either.
You see, I don't feel you should be able to draw a contract up like that at all. In my interpretation of the law (however lacking it may be) it is discriminatory to exclude someone's employment opportunity based on sexual preference.
Imagine if her contract stipulated that she couldn't marry an african-american? I can only begin to fathom the backlash, regardless of the contractual literature.
I'll admit that there is some gray area regarding how far religious institutions can go with their powers as a private entity. Should we look on them as a different type of private entity as, say, a McDonalds or Google? Or are they really no different?
It also seems like there's a veiled feeling of homophobia here. It wouldn't surprise me if there were other teachers who contradicted church doctrine and were allowed to stay on board. Of course, that's just my speculation, but you don't hear very often churches or religious schools kicking people out because they got divorced without an annulment or use contraceptives.
So why then this grave emphasis on marriage?
The importance with which people of various Christian denominations stress heterosexuality is shocking to me considering Christ himself never once mentioned homosexuals in all the writings we have on him.
You must unlearn what you have learned.
This message last edited by MalkierKnight on 05/09/2010 at 01:28:53 AM
Gay Marriage and Religious Institutions
- 04/09/2010 11:36:14 PM
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Religion 100% aside, it's"okay" because she breached her contract
- 05/09/2010 12:18:36 AM
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Well, my tripes with it are a little in line with that
- 05/09/2010 01:26:56 AM
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Re: Well, my tripes with it are a little in line with that
- 05/09/2010 01:41:34 AM
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goodness knows that the military sign their rights away ALL THE TIME
- 05/09/2010 02:44:58 AM
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There is a difference in the degree of the transgressions and the public nature of them as well.
- 05/09/2010 02:30:06 AM
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agreed. There may be some hypocrisy in the church employment practices...
- 05/09/2010 02:49:44 AM
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Re: There is a difference in the degree of the transgressions and the public nature of them as well.
- 09/09/2010 06:43:23 AM
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She chose to work for a Catholic institution.
- 05/09/2010 05:54:23 PM
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what a stupid thing to say
- 05/09/2010 07:38:16 PM
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Um... no? One can be excommunicated for any number of things. *NM*
- 05/09/2010 08:22:29 PM
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yeah back in the time when there was no electricity *NM*
- 05/09/2010 08:25:17 PM
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...um, no. I'm not sure where you're getting that from, but it's completely wrong.
- 06/09/2010 01:06:49 AM
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You can't be excommunicated for being gay
- 06/09/2010 02:51:21 AM
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This is a classic example of me inadvertently coming to complete agreement with the Vatican.
- 07/09/2010 12:05:52 PM
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Wow! What an underwhelming argument.
- 06/09/2010 04:24:32 AM
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Remember that NC Baptist church kicking out non-Bush supporters in '04?
- 07/09/2010 11:46:18 AM
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Actually, the Pope has the right to say "sorry, you're not a Catholic anymore".
- 05/09/2010 08:43:34 PM
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See above post
- 06/09/2010 02:52:25 AM
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What?
- 06/09/2010 02:56:59 AM
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Nope
- 06/09/2010 03:03:48 AM
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Inaction, like, for example, not saving lives where you could have is also grounds for expulsion.
- 06/09/2010 06:35:31 PM
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Hmm, but I think that's a different type of inaction than the kind he's discussing
- 06/09/2010 08:02:50 PM
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I never infered that that was the case.
- 06/09/2010 08:24:30 PM
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mmm, but your example isn't inaction ALONE
- 06/09/2010 08:46:56 PM
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Hmm interesting question.
- 06/09/2010 10:35:19 PM
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is excommunication about "use" though?
- 06/09/2010 10:36:55 PM
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Well thank god you aren't the pope
- 07/09/2010 03:29:00 AM
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Dismas is a Saint?
- 07/09/2010 12:08:45 PM
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You are purposefully trying to split hairs
- 07/09/2010 03:15:08 AM
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does excommunication mean you are no longer Catholic?
- 06/09/2010 08:52:58 PM
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i'm pretty sure we have this conversation on a weekly basis. *NM*
- 06/09/2010 09:05:33 PM
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Yeah.
- 06/09/2010 10:34:10 PM
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is being Catholic a belief system or a club?
- 06/09/2010 11:03:00 PM
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It's both.
- 07/09/2010 05:54:13 AM
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I'm unsure about that. It doesn't invalidate baptism.
- 07/09/2010 08:23:33 AM
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I thought conformation is what made you a member of the church *NM*
- 07/09/2010 06:42:36 PM
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You're correct.
- 08/09/2010 02:33:45 AM
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Either way, it's a sacramental character, and so my point stands. You can't erase the seal of either *NM*
- 08/09/2010 04:18:12 AM
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My god people that cheat or divorce shouldn't be Catholic
- 06/09/2010 02:26:23 AM
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*NM*