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My turn to split hairs: Joel Send a noteboard - 07/09/2010 12:10:33 PM
Is not only unchristian, but it invalidates all the points you previously tried to make.

The second you get personal, you lose a debate.

He didn't say you're an idiot. He said you were ACTING like one. All the difference in the world. That's why Christians can judge actions, but never people.
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Gay Marriage and Religious Institutions MalkierKnight - 04/09/2010 11:36:14 PM 1559 Views
Religion 100% aside, it's"okay" because she breached her contract LadyLorraine - 05/09/2010 12:18:36 AM 1139 Views
Well, my tripes with it are a little in line with that MalkierKnight - 05/09/2010 01:26:56 AM 1158 Views
Re: Well, my tripes with it are a little in line with that Angel Barchild - 05/09/2010 01:41:34 AM 1118 Views
goodness knows that the military sign their rights away ALL THE TIME LadyLorraine - 05/09/2010 02:44:58 AM 967 Views
While I understand that view Roland00 - 05/09/2010 04:05:29 AM 1072 Views
There is a difference in the degree of the transgressions and the public nature of them as well. Cannoli - 05/09/2010 02:30:06 AM 1061 Views
agreed. There may be some hypocrisy in the church employment practices... LadyLorraine - 05/09/2010 02:49:44 AM 1029 Views
That's the crux of it. Joel - 07/09/2010 11:24:44 AM 1162 Views
Re: There is a difference in the degree of the transgressions and the public nature of them as well. MalkierKnight - 09/09/2010 06:43:23 AM 1339 Views
I could not believe this post was serious. Cannoli - 10/09/2010 02:04:10 AM 1147 Views
Good god... MalkierKnight - 10/09/2010 10:52:03 AM 1133 Views
To recieve federal funds you can't discriminate Roland00 - 05/09/2010 04:02:13 AM 1158 Views
She chose to work for a Catholic institution. Dragonsoul - 05/09/2010 05:54:23 PM 955 Views
what a stupid thing to say Yunalesca - 05/09/2010 07:38:16 PM 1111 Views
Um... no? One can be excommunicated for any number of things. *NM* Ghavrel - 05/09/2010 08:22:29 PM 385 Views
yeah back in the time when there was no electricity *NM* Yunalesca - 05/09/2010 08:25:17 PM 435 Views
...um, no. I'm not sure where you're getting that from, but it's completely wrong. Ghavrel - 06/09/2010 01:06:49 AM 1004 Views
You can't be excommunicated for being gay Roland00 - 06/09/2010 02:51:21 AM 1088 Views
No one here said you could. Dragonsoul - 06/09/2010 03:00:07 AM 1041 Views
I am not disagreeing with that, excommunications do happen Roland00 - 06/09/2010 03:07:57 AM 1097 Views
This is a classic example of me inadvertently coming to complete agreement with the Vatican. Joel - 07/09/2010 12:05:52 PM 1092 Views
Wow! What an underwhelming argument. everynametaken - 06/09/2010 04:24:32 AM 1063 Views
Remember that NC Baptist church kicking out non-Bush supporters in '04? Joel - 07/09/2010 11:46:18 AM 1184 Views
Actually, the Pope has the right to say "sorry, you're not a Catholic anymore". Dragonsoul - 05/09/2010 08:43:34 PM 1224 Views
See above post Roland00 - 06/09/2010 02:52:25 AM 952 Views
What? Dragonsoul - 06/09/2010 02:56:59 AM 957 Views
Nope Roland00 - 06/09/2010 03:03:48 AM 1005 Views
Inaction, like, for example, not saving lives where you could have is also grounds for expulsion. Dragonsoul - 06/09/2010 06:35:31 PM 856 Views
Hmm, but I think that's a different type of inaction than the kind he's discussing LadyLorraine - 06/09/2010 08:02:50 PM 1190 Views
I never infered that that was the case. Dragonsoul - 06/09/2010 08:24:30 PM 879 Views
mmm, but your example isn't inaction ALONE LadyLorraine - 06/09/2010 08:46:56 PM 989 Views
Hmm interesting question. Dragonsoul - 06/09/2010 10:35:19 PM 1064 Views
is excommunication about "use" though? LadyLorraine - 06/09/2010 10:36:55 PM 1098 Views
I don't know. Dragonsoul - 07/09/2010 05:47:42 AM 949 Views
yah, I'd agree with that LadyLorraine - 07/09/2010 11:59:01 AM 1087 Views
Well thank god you aren't the pope Roland00 - 07/09/2010 03:29:00 AM 1062 Views
I would say the same for you. Dragonsoul - 07/09/2010 05:50:55 AM 1010 Views
Dismas is a Saint? Joel - 07/09/2010 12:08:45 PM 1097 Views
It's pretty hard to argue with that one. *NM* Ghavrel - 08/09/2010 04:18:41 AM 386 Views
Yeah, was just surprised they'd made it official is all. Joel - 08/09/2010 04:36:28 AM 1046 Views
You are purposefully trying to split hairs Roland00 - 07/09/2010 03:15:08 AM 978 Views
Calling me an idiot... Dragonsoul - 07/09/2010 05:52:39 AM 985 Views
My turn to split hairs: Joel - 07/09/2010 12:10:33 PM 982 Views
does excommunication mean you are no longer Catholic? random thoughts - 06/09/2010 08:52:58 PM 897 Views
i'm pretty sure we have this conversation on a weekly basis. *NM* LadyLorraine - 06/09/2010 09:05:33 PM 408 Views
Yeah. Dragonsoul - 06/09/2010 10:34:10 PM 878 Views
is being Catholic a belief system or a club? random thoughts - 06/09/2010 11:03:00 PM 966 Views
Depends on who you ask Roland00 - 07/09/2010 03:12:23 AM 1115 Views
It's both. Dragonsoul - 07/09/2010 05:54:13 AM 1070 Views
I'm unsure about that. It doesn't invalidate baptism. Ghavrel - 07/09/2010 08:23:33 AM 944 Views
I thought conformation is what made you a member of the church *NM* random thoughts - 07/09/2010 06:42:36 PM 387 Views
You're correct. Dragonsoul - 08/09/2010 02:33:45 AM 981 Views
Either way, it's a sacramental character, and so my point stands. You can't erase the seal of either *NM* Ghavrel - 08/09/2010 04:18:12 AM 396 Views
Hey I haven't brought up the last two times Roland00 - 07/09/2010 03:30:18 AM 980 Views
My god people that cheat or divorce shouldn't be Catholic Roland00 - 06/09/2010 02:26:23 AM 885 Views
I'm inclined to agree. Joel - 07/09/2010 11:31:59 AM 945 Views
Re: I'm inclined to agree. Cannoli - 10/09/2010 02:36:05 AM 1094 Views
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