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Societal problems don't go away from the group level. Phelix Send a noteboard - 08/09/2010 08:25:21 PM
that she grew up in a society where faggot was an insult and spoke without thinking. Like people do when they say something is "Retarded". No, they may not have anything against retarded people, but it's what they're used to saying, hearing, etc... She probably didn't think "ahhh yah i'll call them GAY. GAY to mean they're GIRLY. that'll SHOW 'EM." She used an insult that is a common societal insult, probably without thinking about what she was saying much at all (clearly).

While this is all still a problem, it's a societal problem and pointing fingers at her and going YOU NEED TO REEVALUATE YOUR VERY BEING SERIOUSLY HERE MISSY is silly. Like you've never mocked someone else with a word based on an insulting stereotype. Blonde, retard, ass (just think of how those poor donkeys feel!! :P)...


Individuals have to think about why something is considered an insult and why they use it to make the change spread.

I didn't say she needed to reevaluate her being, but rather she needed to do some soul searching. She claims she isn't a person who says things that offend people, that she isn't homophobic, but in a moment of celebration she insults the losing team by using a patently homophobic slur.

Her professed self-image is different than what her actions show, so she needs to look inside to see what she really thinks. If she really doesn't want to be someone who offends people with her words, if she doesn't want to be a homophobe, she needs to address this issue within herself.
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Interesting way to bring people together Sidious - 08/09/2010 04:36:19 PM 2245 Views
That is priceless. Go Stephanie Rice! *NM* Legolas - 08/09/2010 04:38:27 PM 626 Views
omigod....what a ridiculous overreaction LadyLorraine - 08/09/2010 04:55:55 PM 1390 Views
omigod....what a ridiculous overreaction LadyLorraine - 08/09/2010 04:55:55 PM 1070 Views
1. That girl is an idiot who needs to do some soul searching... Phelix - 08/09/2010 07:07:47 PM 1345 Views
? not that her comment was excusable... LadyLorraine - 08/09/2010 07:45:59 PM 1430 Views
It's not a cardinal sin against humanity... Phelix - 08/09/2010 07:55:55 PM 1557 Views
or it just means... LadyLorraine - 08/09/2010 08:18:57 PM 1480 Views
Societal problems don't go away from the group level. Phelix - 08/09/2010 08:25:21 PM 1286 Views
your soul is your being LadyLorraine - 08/09/2010 08:43:18 PM 1334 Views
Just because you search does not mean you re-evaluate. Phelix - 08/09/2010 08:45:31 PM 1231 Views
You have an odd definition of homophobe (or at least that's what your last paragraph implies). Legolas - 08/09/2010 10:04:52 PM 1335 Views
I was trying to use her words... Phelix - 08/09/2010 10:17:32 PM 1441 Views
Ah, okay. Her apology does seem rather clumsy, agreed there. Legolas - 08/09/2010 11:05:34 PM 1261 Views
Glad to clear up that confusion. Phelix - 08/09/2010 11:11:35 PM 1446 Views
I don't think you should read too much in the exact wording of her apology. Legolas - 08/09/2010 11:24:21 PM 1359 Views
I'm horrible for tearing into the meaning of words. Phelix - 08/09/2010 11:36:34 PM 1329 Views
Entirely agree *NM* ironclad - 08/09/2010 10:46:12 PM 701 Views
You should watch that Southpark episode where they change the meaning of the word faggot. Helene - 08/09/2010 09:24:16 PM 1244 Views
I've seen it, and it was funny. Phelix - 08/09/2010 09:40:43 PM 1415 Views
Suspect you need to consider the way the word is used in other countries. Rebekah - 08/09/2010 09:46:05 PM 1256 Views
I admit, I don't know many (any) kiwis personally (in person that is)... Phelix - 08/09/2010 09:52:45 PM 1247 Views
The insult word for homosexuals Downunder tends to be Fruit or Queer. Rebekah - 08/09/2010 09:58:04 PM 1446 Views
OK, I can see that. Phelix - 08/09/2010 10:09:16 PM 1349 Views
I think it's unfair to people to assume that there's some underlying bad nature... Rebekah - 08/09/2010 10:18:29 PM 1300 Views
I'm not assuming there's an underlying bad nature, I am saying she should look to see if it's there. Phelix - 08/09/2010 10:27:21 PM 1401 Views
And I'm saying that you're instantly looking on the negative side of things instead of Rebekah - 08/09/2010 10:46:11 PM 1279 Views
I don't think I'm looking at the negative side of things, merely saying that she needs to look. Phelix - 08/09/2010 11:01:11 PM 1336 Views
Or, she was replying to interview questions and thinking on her feet. Rebekah - 08/09/2010 11:10:26 PM 1378 Views
This is my first encounter with her. Phelix - 08/09/2010 11:24:42 PM 1533 Views
Don't forget Poofta!! LadyLorraine - 08/09/2010 10:57:00 PM 1091 Views
Heh, I had forgotten that. Rebekah - 08/09/2010 10:58:53 PM 1386 Views
She said she needs to learn to think before she tweets lol Sidious - 08/09/2010 08:14:38 PM 1655 Views
Yes, but that's just a surface change. Phelix - 08/09/2010 08:20:59 PM 1486 Views
Re: Yes, but that's just a surface change. Sidious - 08/09/2010 08:39:52 PM 1711 Views
Re: Yes, but that's just a surface change. Phelix - 08/09/2010 08:43:55 PM 1323 Views
mm, i doubt that would make people shut up LadyLorraine - 08/09/2010 08:44:29 PM 1207 Views
A concerted effort would do it... Phelix - 08/09/2010 08:47:50 PM 1292 Views
heh, it's pretty cool that everyone came together like that BlackAdder - 08/09/2010 10:52:50 PM 1091 Views
"Just because a person is gay, mayor, doesn't mean he is a fag" Delireus - 09/09/2010 05:27:50 AM 1195 Views
It was a very good game though, wasn't it? *NM* Colonel Logain - 09/09/2010 12:56:33 PM 752 Views
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