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On a gut level, I think all substance is teleologically tied to one or more kinds of consciousness. Burr Send a noteboard - 14/09/2009 04:03:31 PM
I infer that there are substances that I will never observe but some other conscious being has or will. And I imagine that God observes all, but maybe even he enjoys the occasional emergent surprise. If any of that fits with what you mean by "spiritual substance," then yes.

But not in any animist sense. I don't believe that souls exist as a special substance, for instance. I am just one of many examples of awesome physical programming.
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Do you think there's some kind of spiritual substance in the universe? Lordling - 14/09/2009 02:42:22 PM 914 Views
no, it is mostly hydrogen *NM* random thoughts - 14/09/2009 02:43:47 PM 285 Views
No *NM* Insolitus - 14/09/2009 03:01:32 PM 264 Views
not a chance *NM* clam - 14/09/2009 03:23:02 PM 267 Views
yes (in as much that we could choose to define it that way) LadyLorraine - 14/09/2009 03:31:40 PM 721 Views
On a gut level, I think all substance is teleologically tied to one or more kinds of consciousness. Burr - 14/09/2009 04:03:31 PM 651 Views
aaah but who says we can percieve all there is to percieve in relation to our persons? LadyLorraine - 14/09/2009 04:14:08 PM 630 Views
But merely positing a soul (as a spiritual substance) doesn't actually explain anything. Burr - 14/09/2009 07:46:35 PM 592 Views
i'm not saying that all inexplained qualities are due to "soul" LadyLorraine - 14/09/2009 07:50:27 PM 655 Views
Re: i'm not saying that all inexplained qualities are due to "soul" Burr - 14/09/2009 08:05:41 PM 655 Views
Carts and horses. Joel - 18/09/2009 12:10:22 PM 782 Views
No *NM* Monkey - 14/09/2009 05:14:33 PM 268 Views
Wouldn't spiritual and substance be mutually exclusive? jh - 14/09/2009 05:27:09 PM 653 Views
Re: Wouldn't spiritual and substance be mutually exclusive? Lordling - 14/09/2009 06:20:45 PM 636 Views
I think there is definitely a spiritual force that underlies the unity of all things Matrimony Cauthon - 14/09/2009 06:11:01 PM 677 Views
That sounds very like gnosticism in many ways. Joel - 18/09/2009 12:17:51 PM 685 Views
No. *NM* Entophile - 14/09/2009 07:06:59 PM 258 Views
define "spiritual'. Avendesora - 14/09/2009 07:36:18 PM 611 Views
Rum. Craig - 14/09/2009 08:25:46 PM 662 Views
YES! *NM* Elaine - 16/09/2009 02:10:55 PM 293 Views
How are we not married? *NM* Craig - 19/09/2009 04:10:13 AM 268 Views
Bigamy laws. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 19/09/2009 03:49:59 PM 253 Views
My Achilles heel! *NM* Craig - 19/09/2009 07:30:06 PM 274 Views
Timing *NM* Elaine - 21/09/2009 12:51:37 PM 268 Views
My Achilles ankle! *NM* Craig - 21/09/2009 08:14:42 PM 279 Views
Your Face. *NM* jh - 21/09/2009 08:21:44 PM 269 Views
My Achilles face! Craig - 07/10/2009 09:40:36 PM 559 Views
No *NM* Dragonsworn - 14/09/2009 09:09:16 PM 250 Views
No *NM* Camilla - 14/09/2009 09:31:14 PM 267 Views
Yes, vodka. *NM* Stephen - 14/09/2009 10:02:19 PM 254 Views
Substance? Great Lord of Chaos - 14/09/2009 10:08:04 PM 625 Views
Yeah, boobs. Vodalus - 15/09/2009 01:51:44 AM 611 Views
Not the way I'd put it, as jh notes, but unquestionably. Joel - 15/09/2009 03:17:22 PM 647 Views
Look, don't put words in my mouth. jh - 15/09/2009 04:50:13 PM 672 Views
Sorry. Joel - 15/09/2009 05:14:10 PM 600 Views
Re: Sorry. Burr - 17/09/2009 09:20:58 PM 581 Views
People over-complicate this, it's a sort of animal abuse Isaac - 15/09/2009 09:03:01 PM 638 Views
Nicely put. *NM* everynametaken - 17/09/2009 01:57:44 AM 248 Views
Very nicely put. *NM* Ghavrel - 17/09/2009 06:57:57 PM 242 Views
A sublte nuance most modern materialists miss. Joel - 18/09/2009 12:21:33 PM 857 Views
I think there may be platonic forms defining purpose Sports_Gambler - 16/09/2009 06:27:36 AM 562 Views
The material universe precludes a purely natural cause. Joel - 18/09/2009 12:04:16 PM 743 Views
One little correction Isaac - 20/09/2009 12:34:13 AM 734 Views
That makes it more complex, but I agree the same basic problem persists. Joel - 07/10/2009 12:11:07 PM 789 Views
Nay. Burr - 20/09/2009 07:04:47 AM 566 Views
Re: Nay. Joel - 07/10/2009 11:55:28 AM 678 Views
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