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On a gut level, I think all substance is teleologically tied to one or more kinds of consciousness. Burr Send a noteboard - 14/09/2009 04:03:31 PM
I infer that there are substances that I will never observe but some other conscious being has or will. And I imagine that God observes all, but maybe even he enjoys the occasional emergent surprise. If any of that fits with what you mean by "spiritual substance," then yes.

But not in any animist sense. I don't believe that souls exist as a special substance, for instance. I am just one of many examples of awesome physical programming.
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Do you think there's some kind of spiritual substance in the universe? Lordling - 14/09/2009 02:42:22 PM 959 Views
no, it is mostly hydrogen *NM* random thoughts - 14/09/2009 02:43:47 PM 304 Views
No *NM* Insolitus - 14/09/2009 03:01:32 PM 287 Views
not a chance *NM* clam - 14/09/2009 03:23:02 PM 290 Views
yes (in as much that we could choose to define it that way) LadyLorraine - 14/09/2009 03:31:40 PM 782 Views
On a gut level, I think all substance is teleologically tied to one or more kinds of consciousness. Burr - 14/09/2009 04:03:31 PM 698 Views
aaah but who says we can percieve all there is to percieve in relation to our persons? LadyLorraine - 14/09/2009 04:14:08 PM 701 Views
But merely positing a soul (as a spiritual substance) doesn't actually explain anything. Burr - 14/09/2009 07:46:35 PM 639 Views
i'm not saying that all inexplained qualities are due to "soul" LadyLorraine - 14/09/2009 07:50:27 PM 704 Views
Re: i'm not saying that all inexplained qualities are due to "soul" Burr - 14/09/2009 08:05:41 PM 703 Views
Carts and horses. Joel - 18/09/2009 12:10:22 PM 838 Views
No *NM* Monkey - 14/09/2009 05:14:33 PM 288 Views
Wouldn't spiritual and substance be mutually exclusive? jh - 14/09/2009 05:27:09 PM 701 Views
Re: Wouldn't spiritual and substance be mutually exclusive? Lordling - 14/09/2009 06:20:45 PM 691 Views
I think there is definitely a spiritual force that underlies the unity of all things Matrimony Cauthon - 14/09/2009 06:11:01 PM 731 Views
That sounds very like gnosticism in many ways. Joel - 18/09/2009 12:17:51 PM 748 Views
No. *NM* Entophile - 14/09/2009 07:06:59 PM 281 Views
define "spiritual'. Avendesora - 14/09/2009 07:36:18 PM 661 Views
Rum. Craig - 14/09/2009 08:25:46 PM 704 Views
YES! *NM* Elaine - 16/09/2009 02:10:55 PM 312 Views
How are we not married? *NM* Craig - 19/09/2009 04:10:13 AM 289 Views
Bigamy laws. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 19/09/2009 03:49:59 PM 288 Views
My Achilles heel! *NM* Craig - 19/09/2009 07:30:06 PM 295 Views
Timing *NM* Elaine - 21/09/2009 12:51:37 PM 288 Views
My Achilles ankle! *NM* Craig - 21/09/2009 08:14:42 PM 304 Views
Your Face. *NM* jh - 21/09/2009 08:21:44 PM 291 Views
My Achilles face! Craig - 07/10/2009 09:40:36 PM 609 Views
No *NM* Dragonsworn - 14/09/2009 09:09:16 PM 270 Views
No *NM* Camilla - 14/09/2009 09:31:14 PM 291 Views
Yes, vodka. *NM* Stephen - 14/09/2009 10:02:19 PM 276 Views
Substance? Great Lord of Chaos - 14/09/2009 10:08:04 PM 674 Views
Yeah, boobs. Vodalus - 15/09/2009 01:51:44 AM 660 Views
Not the way I'd put it, as jh notes, but unquestionably. Joel - 15/09/2009 03:17:22 PM 689 Views
Look, don't put words in my mouth. jh - 15/09/2009 04:50:13 PM 735 Views
Sorry. Joel - 15/09/2009 05:14:10 PM 650 Views
Re: Sorry. Burr - 17/09/2009 09:20:58 PM 627 Views
People over-complicate this, it's a sort of animal abuse Isaac - 15/09/2009 09:03:01 PM 691 Views
Nicely put. *NM* everynametaken - 17/09/2009 01:57:44 AM 268 Views
Very nicely put. *NM* Ghavrel - 17/09/2009 06:57:57 PM 263 Views
A sublte nuance most modern materialists miss. Joel - 18/09/2009 12:21:33 PM 906 Views
I think there may be platonic forms defining purpose Sports_Gambler - 16/09/2009 06:27:36 AM 608 Views
The material universe precludes a purely natural cause. Joel - 18/09/2009 12:04:16 PM 806 Views
One little correction Isaac - 20/09/2009 12:34:13 AM 789 Views
That makes it more complex, but I agree the same basic problem persists. Joel - 07/10/2009 12:11:07 PM 850 Views
Nay. Burr - 20/09/2009 07:04:47 AM 633 Views
Re: Nay. Joel - 07/10/2009 11:55:28 AM 744 Views
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