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On a gut level, I think all substance is teleologically tied to one or more kinds of consciousness. Burr Send a noteboard - 14/09/2009 04:03:31 PM
I infer that there are substances that I will never observe but some other conscious being has or will. And I imagine that God observes all, but maybe even he enjoys the occasional emergent surprise. If any of that fits with what you mean by "spiritual substance," then yes.

But not in any animist sense. I don't believe that souls exist as a special substance, for instance. I am just one of many examples of awesome physical programming.
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Do you think there's some kind of spiritual substance in the universe? Lordling - 14/09/2009 02:42:22 PM 981 Views
no, it is mostly hydrogen *NM* random thoughts - 14/09/2009 02:43:47 PM 310 Views
No *NM* Insolitus - 14/09/2009 03:01:32 PM 296 Views
not a chance *NM* clam - 14/09/2009 03:23:02 PM 297 Views
yes (in as much that we could choose to define it that way) LadyLorraine - 14/09/2009 03:31:40 PM 802 Views
On a gut level, I think all substance is teleologically tied to one or more kinds of consciousness. Burr - 14/09/2009 04:03:31 PM 712 Views
aaah but who says we can percieve all there is to percieve in relation to our persons? LadyLorraine - 14/09/2009 04:14:08 PM 722 Views
But merely positing a soul (as a spiritual substance) doesn't actually explain anything. Burr - 14/09/2009 07:46:35 PM 659 Views
i'm not saying that all inexplained qualities are due to "soul" LadyLorraine - 14/09/2009 07:50:27 PM 718 Views
Re: i'm not saying that all inexplained qualities are due to "soul" Burr - 14/09/2009 08:05:41 PM 715 Views
Carts and horses. Joel - 18/09/2009 12:10:22 PM 856 Views
No *NM* Monkey - 14/09/2009 05:14:33 PM 295 Views
Wouldn't spiritual and substance be mutually exclusive? jh - 14/09/2009 05:27:09 PM 717 Views
Re: Wouldn't spiritual and substance be mutually exclusive? Lordling - 14/09/2009 06:20:45 PM 708 Views
I think there is definitely a spiritual force that underlies the unity of all things Matrimony Cauthon - 14/09/2009 06:11:01 PM 749 Views
That sounds very like gnosticism in many ways. Joel - 18/09/2009 12:17:51 PM 765 Views
No. *NM* Entophile - 14/09/2009 07:06:59 PM 287 Views
define "spiritual'. Avendesora - 14/09/2009 07:36:18 PM 680 Views
Rum. Craig - 14/09/2009 08:25:46 PM 718 Views
YES! *NM* Elaine - 16/09/2009 02:10:55 PM 319 Views
How are we not married? *NM* Craig - 19/09/2009 04:10:13 AM 297 Views
Bigamy laws. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 19/09/2009 03:49:59 PM 297 Views
My Achilles heel! *NM* Craig - 19/09/2009 07:30:06 PM 302 Views
Timing *NM* Elaine - 21/09/2009 12:51:37 PM 298 Views
My Achilles ankle! *NM* Craig - 21/09/2009 08:14:42 PM 310 Views
Your Face. *NM* jh - 21/09/2009 08:21:44 PM 300 Views
My Achilles face! Craig - 07/10/2009 09:40:36 PM 624 Views
No *NM* Dragonsworn - 14/09/2009 09:09:16 PM 275 Views
No *NM* Camilla - 14/09/2009 09:31:14 PM 297 Views
Yes, vodka. *NM* Stephen - 14/09/2009 10:02:19 PM 283 Views
Substance? Great Lord of Chaos - 14/09/2009 10:08:04 PM 694 Views
Yeah, boobs. Vodalus - 15/09/2009 01:51:44 AM 681 Views
Not the way I'd put it, as jh notes, but unquestionably. Joel - 15/09/2009 03:17:22 PM 707 Views
Look, don't put words in my mouth. jh - 15/09/2009 04:50:13 PM 753 Views
Sorry. Joel - 15/09/2009 05:14:10 PM 670 Views
Re: Sorry. Burr - 17/09/2009 09:20:58 PM 651 Views
People over-complicate this, it's a sort of animal abuse Isaac - 15/09/2009 09:03:01 PM 707 Views
Nicely put. *NM* everynametaken - 17/09/2009 01:57:44 AM 276 Views
Very nicely put. *NM* Ghavrel - 17/09/2009 06:57:57 PM 270 Views
A sublte nuance most modern materialists miss. Joel - 18/09/2009 12:21:33 PM 925 Views
I think there may be platonic forms defining purpose Sports_Gambler - 16/09/2009 06:27:36 AM 627 Views
The material universe precludes a purely natural cause. Joel - 18/09/2009 12:04:16 PM 830 Views
One little correction Isaac - 20/09/2009 12:34:13 AM 806 Views
That makes it more complex, but I agree the same basic problem persists. Joel - 07/10/2009 12:11:07 PM 866 Views
Nay. Burr - 20/09/2009 07:04:47 AM 653 Views
Re: Nay. Joel - 07/10/2009 11:55:28 AM 765 Views
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