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On a gut level, I think all substance is teleologically tied to one or more kinds of consciousness. Burr Send a noteboard - 14/09/2009 04:03:31 PM
I infer that there are substances that I will never observe but some other conscious being has or will. And I imagine that God observes all, but maybe even he enjoys the occasional emergent surprise. If any of that fits with what you mean by "spiritual substance," then yes.

But not in any animist sense. I don't believe that souls exist as a special substance, for instance. I am just one of many examples of awesome physical programming.
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Do you think there's some kind of spiritual substance in the universe? Lordling - 14/09/2009 02:42:22 PM 903 Views
no, it is mostly hydrogen *NM* random thoughts - 14/09/2009 02:43:47 PM 279 Views
No *NM* Insolitus - 14/09/2009 03:01:32 PM 257 Views
not a chance *NM* clam - 14/09/2009 03:23:02 PM 263 Views
yes (in as much that we could choose to define it that way) LadyLorraine - 14/09/2009 03:31:40 PM 699 Views
On a gut level, I think all substance is teleologically tied to one or more kinds of consciousness. Burr - 14/09/2009 04:03:31 PM 637 Views
aaah but who says we can percieve all there is to percieve in relation to our persons? LadyLorraine - 14/09/2009 04:14:08 PM 609 Views
But merely positing a soul (as a spiritual substance) doesn't actually explain anything. Burr - 14/09/2009 07:46:35 PM 578 Views
i'm not saying that all inexplained qualities are due to "soul" LadyLorraine - 14/09/2009 07:50:27 PM 639 Views
Re: i'm not saying that all inexplained qualities are due to "soul" Burr - 14/09/2009 08:05:41 PM 641 Views
Carts and horses. Joel - 18/09/2009 12:10:22 PM 771 Views
No *NM* Monkey - 14/09/2009 05:14:33 PM 262 Views
Wouldn't spiritual and substance be mutually exclusive? jh - 14/09/2009 05:27:09 PM 635 Views
Re: Wouldn't spiritual and substance be mutually exclusive? Lordling - 14/09/2009 06:20:45 PM 620 Views
I think there is definitely a spiritual force that underlies the unity of all things Matrimony Cauthon - 14/09/2009 06:11:01 PM 661 Views
That sounds very like gnosticism in many ways. Joel - 18/09/2009 12:17:51 PM 669 Views
No. *NM* Entophile - 14/09/2009 07:06:59 PM 252 Views
define "spiritual'. Avendesora - 14/09/2009 07:36:18 PM 591 Views
Rum. Craig - 14/09/2009 08:25:46 PM 649 Views
YES! *NM* Elaine - 16/09/2009 02:10:55 PM 285 Views
How are we not married? *NM* Craig - 19/09/2009 04:10:13 AM 261 Views
Bigamy laws. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 19/09/2009 03:49:59 PM 245 Views
My Achilles heel! *NM* Craig - 19/09/2009 07:30:06 PM 266 Views
Timing *NM* Elaine - 21/09/2009 12:51:37 PM 263 Views
My Achilles ankle! *NM* Craig - 21/09/2009 08:14:42 PM 273 Views
Your Face. *NM* jh - 21/09/2009 08:21:44 PM 263 Views
My Achilles face! Craig - 07/10/2009 09:40:36 PM 545 Views
No *NM* Dragonsworn - 14/09/2009 09:09:16 PM 245 Views
No *NM* Camilla - 14/09/2009 09:31:14 PM 261 Views
Yes, vodka. *NM* Stephen - 14/09/2009 10:02:19 PM 248 Views
Substance? Great Lord of Chaos - 14/09/2009 10:08:04 PM 607 Views
Yeah, boobs. Vodalus - 15/09/2009 01:51:44 AM 596 Views
Not the way I'd put it, as jh notes, but unquestionably. Joel - 15/09/2009 03:17:22 PM 630 Views
Look, don't put words in my mouth. jh - 15/09/2009 04:50:13 PM 653 Views
Sorry. Joel - 15/09/2009 05:14:10 PM 583 Views
Re: Sorry. Burr - 17/09/2009 09:20:58 PM 566 Views
People over-complicate this, it's a sort of animal abuse Isaac - 15/09/2009 09:03:01 PM 619 Views
Nicely put. *NM* everynametaken - 17/09/2009 01:57:44 AM 242 Views
Very nicely put. *NM* Ghavrel - 17/09/2009 06:57:57 PM 236 Views
A sublte nuance most modern materialists miss. Joel - 18/09/2009 12:21:33 PM 844 Views
I think there may be platonic forms defining purpose Sports_Gambler - 16/09/2009 06:27:36 AM 546 Views
The material universe precludes a purely natural cause. Joel - 18/09/2009 12:04:16 PM 730 Views
One little correction Isaac - 20/09/2009 12:34:13 AM 720 Views
That makes it more complex, but I agree the same basic problem persists. Joel - 07/10/2009 12:11:07 PM 769 Views
Nay. Burr - 20/09/2009 07:04:47 AM 549 Views
Re: Nay. Joel - 07/10/2009 11:55:28 AM 661 Views
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