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On a gut level, I think all substance is teleologically tied to one or more kinds of consciousness. Burr Send a noteboard - 14/09/2009 04:03:31 PM
I infer that there are substances that I will never observe but some other conscious being has or will. And I imagine that God observes all, but maybe even he enjoys the occasional emergent surprise. If any of that fits with what you mean by "spiritual substance," then yes.

But not in any animist sense. I don't believe that souls exist as a special substance, for instance. I am just one of many examples of awesome physical programming.
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Do you think there's some kind of spiritual substance in the universe? Lordling - 14/09/2009 02:42:22 PM 925 Views
no, it is mostly hydrogen *NM* random thoughts - 14/09/2009 02:43:47 PM 289 Views
No *NM* Insolitus - 14/09/2009 03:01:32 PM 268 Views
not a chance *NM* clam - 14/09/2009 03:23:02 PM 272 Views
yes (in as much that we could choose to define it that way) LadyLorraine - 14/09/2009 03:31:40 PM 731 Views
On a gut level, I think all substance is teleologically tied to one or more kinds of consciousness. Burr - 14/09/2009 04:03:31 PM 662 Views
aaah but who says we can percieve all there is to percieve in relation to our persons? LadyLorraine - 14/09/2009 04:14:08 PM 642 Views
But merely positing a soul (as a spiritual substance) doesn't actually explain anything. Burr - 14/09/2009 07:46:35 PM 603 Views
i'm not saying that all inexplained qualities are due to "soul" LadyLorraine - 14/09/2009 07:50:27 PM 668 Views
Re: i'm not saying that all inexplained qualities are due to "soul" Burr - 14/09/2009 08:05:41 PM 666 Views
Carts and horses. Joel - 18/09/2009 12:10:22 PM 792 Views
No *NM* Monkey - 14/09/2009 05:14:33 PM 274 Views
Wouldn't spiritual and substance be mutually exclusive? jh - 14/09/2009 05:27:09 PM 662 Views
Re: Wouldn't spiritual and substance be mutually exclusive? Lordling - 14/09/2009 06:20:45 PM 649 Views
I think there is definitely a spiritual force that underlies the unity of all things Matrimony Cauthon - 14/09/2009 06:11:01 PM 691 Views
That sounds very like gnosticism in many ways. Joel - 18/09/2009 12:17:51 PM 698 Views
No. *NM* Entophile - 14/09/2009 07:06:59 PM 263 Views
define "spiritual'. Avendesora - 14/09/2009 07:36:18 PM 622 Views
Rum. Craig - 14/09/2009 08:25:46 PM 672 Views
YES! *NM* Elaine - 16/09/2009 02:10:55 PM 297 Views
How are we not married? *NM* Craig - 19/09/2009 04:10:13 AM 273 Views
Bigamy laws. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 19/09/2009 03:49:59 PM 258 Views
My Achilles heel! *NM* Craig - 19/09/2009 07:30:06 PM 278 Views
Timing *NM* Elaine - 21/09/2009 12:51:37 PM 272 Views
My Achilles ankle! *NM* Craig - 21/09/2009 08:14:42 PM 285 Views
Your Face. *NM* jh - 21/09/2009 08:21:44 PM 275 Views
My Achilles face! Craig - 07/10/2009 09:40:36 PM 569 Views
No *NM* Dragonsworn - 14/09/2009 09:09:16 PM 255 Views
No *NM* Camilla - 14/09/2009 09:31:14 PM 273 Views
Yes, vodka. *NM* Stephen - 14/09/2009 10:02:19 PM 260 Views
Substance? Great Lord of Chaos - 14/09/2009 10:08:04 PM 636 Views
Yeah, boobs. Vodalus - 15/09/2009 01:51:44 AM 621 Views
Not the way I'd put it, as jh notes, but unquestionably. Joel - 15/09/2009 03:17:22 PM 658 Views
Look, don't put words in my mouth. jh - 15/09/2009 04:50:13 PM 698 Views
Sorry. Joel - 15/09/2009 05:14:10 PM 612 Views
Re: Sorry. Burr - 17/09/2009 09:20:58 PM 592 Views
People over-complicate this, it's a sort of animal abuse Isaac - 15/09/2009 09:03:01 PM 649 Views
Nicely put. *NM* everynametaken - 17/09/2009 01:57:44 AM 251 Views
Very nicely put. *NM* Ghavrel - 17/09/2009 06:57:57 PM 246 Views
A sublte nuance most modern materialists miss. Joel - 18/09/2009 12:21:33 PM 869 Views
I think there may be platonic forms defining purpose Sports_Gambler - 16/09/2009 06:27:36 AM 572 Views
The material universe precludes a purely natural cause. Joel - 18/09/2009 12:04:16 PM 756 Views
One little correction Isaac - 20/09/2009 12:34:13 AM 746 Views
That makes it more complex, but I agree the same basic problem persists. Joel - 07/10/2009 12:11:07 PM 800 Views
Nay. Burr - 20/09/2009 07:04:47 AM 576 Views
Re: Nay. Joel - 07/10/2009 11:55:28 AM 689 Views
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