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I'm just carrying on a conversation. Dreaded Anomaly Send a noteboard - 05/12/2010 07:26:39 AM
I am not a religious person although I am spiritual. I have no problem with science and evolution makes sense to me. It is the attitude of some scientists that bothers me. The attitude of some religious people bothers me too. In both groups it is the ones that don't just think that they re right and that everyone else is wrong but but also feel the need to be vocal about their lack of respect for the view points of others.


Respecting someone's right to hold a view, and respecting the view itself are two different things. Views are worthy or unworthy of respect based on their merit, not just their existence.

You spoke of believing in things because of evidence. I have mounds of personal evidence that God exists. On the other hand I have to take other people's word for it that men walked on the moon. The two are not mutually exclusive. I am just pointing out that much of what we are told by science are things that the vast majority of us have to take on faith as we don't have the time or means to prove it ourselves. It isn't so different from people believing in various religious concepts. Just something to think about before you bash the other side. I don't even see where there has to be two sides. It isn't hard to embrace both.


The difference between the two types of evidence is falsifiability. You could, in theory, check if men walked on the moon. No one can can check your personal evidence for God's existence. (I discuss this in reply to Nate's post above.) It isn't hard to embrace both sides because humans can live with a certain amount of cognitive dissonance, but that doesn't make it a good thing.

This is far from what I was originally saying that I didn't think it was such a stretch that their may be other manifestations of life out there besides the ones we are familiar with.


I agree that it's not a stretch. We can't possibly imagine all the forms life could take. That's not really why this discovery is noteworthy; it's because now we have proof of a new (or at least altered) form.
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... without coming down and dealing with the nasty stomach cramps. Joel - 02/12/2010 09:49:06 PM 901 Views
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Curse you, poetic justice! Curse you! Craig - 04/12/2010 03:38:37 AM 864 Views
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see my note below LadyLorraine - 02/12/2010 08:13:35 PM 834 Views
Maybe Darth_Katie - 02/12/2010 08:23:16 PM 767 Views
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While awesome, it's a bit of a problem. Ghavrel - 02/12/2010 09:04:22 PM 742 Views
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It's much more than an educated guess. Dreaded Anomaly - 02/12/2010 11:59:18 PM 922 Views
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obviously you have not learned to look at the back label on the car *NM* LadyLorraine - 04/12/2010 07:04:42 PM 390 Views
Yes, we can. Dreaded Anomaly - 04/12/2010 06:04:48 PM 1063 Views
The problem probably is with me. Tashmere - 04/12/2010 08:00:56 PM 729 Views
No, they aren't. Dreaded Anomaly - 04/12/2010 10:01:25 PM 747 Views
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There are correct and incorrect ways to view evidence. Dreaded Anomaly - 05/12/2010 05:42:41 AM 679 Views
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I'm just carrying on a conversation. Dreaded Anomaly - 05/12/2010 07:26:39 AM 905 Views
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Okay. Tashmere - 06/12/2010 11:22:44 PM 920 Views
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