Liberals and Conservatives have rushed to frame Jared Lee Loughner’s motives...
Variant Send a noteboard - 10/01/2011 10:34:09 PM
..in hopes of gaining the upper hand in the debate over the Arizona rampage early, and for months to come.
But the fact is, Loughner was not of someone who identified neatly with politics on the left or the right. The kid is clearly crazy, the only thing that could be said for certain about Loughner – based on his online persona and accounts by former acquaintances — was that he is virulently anti-government and anti-establishment, with a disintegrating state of mind. Tucson is yet another example of why it is important to gather facts before rushing to judgment. The 24-hour news cycle and the quest to be first with the scoop often lead people to draw snap conclusions. This guy's motive had nothing to do with illegal immigration, health care or anything. He isn't a crazy liberal or a tea partier - he was mad about government mind control, the literacy rate, and the use of words. A crazy that represents no one.
Everyone just needs to shut up, let the investigation take its course, let people mourn.
But the fact is, Loughner was not of someone who identified neatly with politics on the left or the right. The kid is clearly crazy, the only thing that could be said for certain about Loughner – based on his online persona and accounts by former acquaintances — was that he is virulently anti-government and anti-establishment, with a disintegrating state of mind. Tucson is yet another example of why it is important to gather facts before rushing to judgment. The 24-hour news cycle and the quest to be first with the scoop often lead people to draw snap conclusions. This guy's motive had nothing to do with illegal immigration, health care or anything. He isn't a crazy liberal or a tea partier - he was mad about government mind control, the literacy rate, and the use of words. A crazy that represents no one.
Everyone just needs to shut up, let the investigation take its course, let people mourn.
The Arizona Tragedy and the Politics of Blood Libel
- 10/01/2011 04:02:29 AM
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The NYT and liberal media have created a climate of stupidity
- 10/01/2011 05:47:29 PM
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Pot, Kettle. I think you two should discuss your color.
- 10/01/2011 09:26:05 PM
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nice try but no
- 10/01/2011 09:52:01 PM
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"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means...."
- 10/01/2011 11:53:10 PM
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no you are just wearing Danny's blinders
- 11/01/2011 02:15:46 PM
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I try to steer clear of personal attacks.
- 11/01/2011 04:00:35 PM
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I try to make my point clear and I can't help if you skip them
- 11/01/2011 05:02:41 PM
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I didn't skip your points, I disputed them.
- 11/01/2011 05:51:10 PM
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you keep claiming both sides but you fail to offer any support
- 11/01/2011 06:00:41 PM
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Those who have accused specific people or groups will most likely have to backtrack and apologize.
- 10/01/2011 06:48:33 PM
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they will neither back track or apologize
- 10/01/2011 07:54:54 PM
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I don't really think the NYT has crossed that line I was talking about.
- 10/01/2011 09:54:36 PM
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not sure where you draw your line but this crosses mine
- 10/01/2011 10:11:04 PM
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Yes, well, Krugman is Krugman. 
- 10/01/2011 10:25:31 PM
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- 10/01/2011 10:25:31 PM
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You see to be arguing we should assume his political views were created by the politcal climate
- 11/01/2011 03:03:15 PM
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Indeed I am.
- 11/01/2011 06:18:56 PM
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it is not a wake up call to anything but left wing hestrics if their is no connection
- 11/01/2011 06:29:47 PM
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wasn't pim fortuyn a right winger though?
- 11/01/2011 04:33:26 PM
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Um, yes, that was pretty much the point I was making.
- 11/01/2011 06:22:06 PM
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Was there anyhting besides his stance on immigration to support the argument he was far right?
- 11/01/2011 06:31:05 PM
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Yes, though it's true that is the key part.
- 11/01/2011 07:11:13 PM
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can one posistion define you as being far right or far left?
- 11/01/2011 08:23:18 PM
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One single position? I wouldn't know, I can't think of any examples.
- 11/01/2011 08:41:58 PM
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... cut both ways because soulless opportunism knows no creed:
- 10/01/2011 09:46:31 PM
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They probably wouldn't say much because it really doesn't show much
- 10/01/2011 09:58:46 PM
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It really doesn't show that he has "left leanings".
- 10/01/2011 10:07:48 PM
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Well they call him a liberal and like it or not the Nazi movement was an extreme form of socialism
- 10/01/2011 10:22:04 PM
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Deep sigh.
- 10/01/2011 10:34:33 PM
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well we are talking about the US right and left not the European one
- 11/01/2011 01:11:30 PM
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Actually, I believe we were talking about the Nazi right or left.
- 11/01/2011 07:04:56 PM
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- 11/01/2011 07:04:56 PM
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wow I really need to stop posting from my i-phone an you deserve a cookie for being able to follow
- 11/01/2011 07:48:35 PM
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A thousand times no.
- 11/01/2011 10:38:19 PM
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Bucnd and the Nazi part are and never were associtaed with what we consider American right politics
- 11/01/2011 11:34:46 PM
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What you do/n't "consider" part of the left/right is precisely the problem here.
- 12/01/2011 01:06:56 AM
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Liberal college professors didn't call the nazis far right, people who lived under Nazis did.
- 10/01/2011 10:56:33 PM
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If demoniizing your opponet makes your a fscist then you have made my argument for me
- 11/01/2011 01:25:51 PM
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In a word, no.
- 11/01/2011 04:29:36 PM
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really would you like to point to the right trying to use this to demonize the left?
- 11/01/2011 05:59:49 PM
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I already have, irrespective of your inability and/or refusal to see it.
- 11/01/2011 09:53:38 PM
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I don't know enough about the story to say much save that partisan finger pointing is wrong.
- 10/01/2011 10:30:51 PM
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First I don't even know who WorldNet is so I see no reasont o defend them
- 11/01/2011 01:36:44 PM
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For someone who doens't know who WND is you sure circled the wagons around them fast. 
- 11/01/2011 04:21:40 PM
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- 11/01/2011 04:21:40 PM
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No they are in no way the same
- 11/01/2011 05:06:43 PM
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They're precisely the same in tone.
- 11/01/2011 06:04:42 PM
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the only thing you have proven is that you have zero support for your argument
- 11/01/2011 06:36:14 PM
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Enough.
- 11/01/2011 10:18:59 PM
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your evidience is dribble and if that is the best you can I am sorry
- 11/01/2011 11:39:05 PM
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Liberals and Conservatives have rushed to frame Jared Lee Loughner’s motives...
- 10/01/2011 10:34:09 PM
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Which conseratives rushed to frame this for poltical gain?
- 11/01/2011 02:19:55 PM
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But that's how it always goes:"The animal is so treacherous; when it is attacked, it defends itself"
- 18/01/2011 03:15:35 PM
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