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They're precisely the same in tone. Joel Send a noteboard - 11/01/2011 06:04:42 PM
Nowhere in the article you posted is it even implied that his left leaning politcs is the reason for actions. Spin tell your head pops but you can't escape simple facts.

It's heavily implied throughout, even to the point of calling Hitler a liberal, despite the fact that all his support within and outside Germany came from the right and all his opposition from the left. Everyone bad is yours, everyone good is ours. If only life were that simple.
By the way the extreme from the other side we are talking about is the NYT and CNN not some internet news group.

Not being a CNN viewer or Times reader I can't speak to that; the only such comments the article posted here references is Krugmans op ed. Weren't you the one who was telling me just last week that Fox isn't responsible for Glenn Becks "opinions" (even "opinions" stated as demonstrably false "facts"?) Naetheless, I condemn extremism in all forms, and from all factions, which includes the one with which I otherwise identify: I generally support liberal policy, but never extremism, liberal or otherwise, because it DOES encourage dehumanizing ones opposition, be it left or right, and thereby rationalizing any atrocity against it. That's not what I think happened in AZ, at all, but it DOES happen, on both ends of the political spectrum.
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You keep ignoring the fact that only wide side is trying to exploit this.
They both are, but like Mr. Beck you keep calling things "fact" that aren't even true. I'm tired of trying to convince you that the side you choose doesn't have a monopoly on virtue; it's invariably a fools errand with the far right and I've wasted enough time on this episode of it.
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