so point pointing out blood libel is the same as commiting it?
random thoughts Send a noteboard - 11/01/2011 11:31:41 PM
Saying both sides are to blame is simply false in this case. Basically what we have is one side ran up and kicked the other side in nuts and now they want to just agree everyone is equally to blame. Nice try but no. One side tried to exploit this tragedy not two and they deserve to be held to blame not some "oh everyone is fault" bullshit. Prove me wrong or admit you are wrong and this is one sided. While your at it admit they are still trying to use this prove their argument that opposing them is wrong. Which is what they are doing "being antigovernment is what caused this".
I've maintained since my first comments on this tragedy that trying to exploit it for partisan ends is reprehensible (and I believe phrases like "blood libel" qualify as well). Everyone doing that IS at fault, and there are plenty of people on both sides doing so.
The Arizona Tragedy and the Politics of Blood Libel
- 10/01/2011 04:02:29 AM
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The NYT and liberal media have created a climate of stupidity
- 10/01/2011 05:47:29 PM
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Pot, Kettle. I think you two should discuss your color.
- 10/01/2011 09:26:05 PM
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nice try but no
- 10/01/2011 09:52:01 PM
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"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means...."
- 10/01/2011 11:53:10 PM
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no you are just wearing Danny's blinders
- 11/01/2011 02:15:46 PM
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I try to steer clear of personal attacks.
- 11/01/2011 04:00:35 PM
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I try to make my point clear and I can't help if you skip them
- 11/01/2011 05:02:41 PM
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I didn't skip your points, I disputed them.
- 11/01/2011 05:51:10 PM
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you keep claiming both sides but you fail to offer any support
- 11/01/2011 06:00:41 PM
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Those who have accused specific people or groups will most likely have to backtrack and apologize.
- 10/01/2011 06:48:33 PM
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they will neither back track or apologize
- 10/01/2011 07:54:54 PM
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I don't really think the NYT has crossed that line I was talking about.
- 10/01/2011 09:54:36 PM
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not sure where you draw your line but this crosses mine
- 10/01/2011 10:11:04 PM
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Yes, well, Krugman is Krugman. 
- 10/01/2011 10:25:31 PM
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- 10/01/2011 10:25:31 PM
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You see to be arguing we should assume his political views were created by the politcal climate
- 11/01/2011 03:03:15 PM
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Indeed I am.
- 11/01/2011 06:18:56 PM
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it is not a wake up call to anything but left wing hestrics if their is no connection
- 11/01/2011 06:29:47 PM
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wasn't pim fortuyn a right winger though?
- 11/01/2011 04:33:26 PM
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Um, yes, that was pretty much the point I was making.
- 11/01/2011 06:22:06 PM
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Was there anyhting besides his stance on immigration to support the argument he was far right?
- 11/01/2011 06:31:05 PM
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Yes, though it's true that is the key part.
- 11/01/2011 07:11:13 PM
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can one posistion define you as being far right or far left?
- 11/01/2011 08:23:18 PM
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One single position? I wouldn't know, I can't think of any examples.
- 11/01/2011 08:41:58 PM
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... cut both ways because soulless opportunism knows no creed:
- 10/01/2011 09:46:31 PM
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They probably wouldn't say much because it really doesn't show much
- 10/01/2011 09:58:46 PM
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It really doesn't show that he has "left leanings".
- 10/01/2011 10:07:48 PM
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Well they call him a liberal and like it or not the Nazi movement was an extreme form of socialism
- 10/01/2011 10:22:04 PM
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Deep sigh.
- 10/01/2011 10:34:33 PM
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well we are talking about the US right and left not the European one
- 11/01/2011 01:11:30 PM
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Actually, I believe we were talking about the Nazi right or left.
- 11/01/2011 07:04:56 PM
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- 11/01/2011 07:04:56 PM
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wow I really need to stop posting from my i-phone an you deserve a cookie for being able to follow
- 11/01/2011 07:48:35 PM
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A thousand times no.
- 11/01/2011 10:38:19 PM
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Bucnd and the Nazi part are and never were associtaed with what we consider American right politics
- 11/01/2011 11:34:46 PM
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What you do/n't "consider" part of the left/right is precisely the problem here.
- 12/01/2011 01:06:56 AM
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Liberal college professors didn't call the nazis far right, people who lived under Nazis did.
- 10/01/2011 10:56:33 PM
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If demoniizing your opponet makes your a fscist then you have made my argument for me
- 11/01/2011 01:25:51 PM
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In a word, no.
- 11/01/2011 04:29:36 PM
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really would you like to point to the right trying to use this to demonize the left?
- 11/01/2011 05:59:49 PM
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I already have, irrespective of your inability and/or refusal to see it.
- 11/01/2011 09:53:38 PM
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so point pointing out blood libel is the same as commiting it?
- 11/01/2011 11:31:41 PM
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I don't know enough about the story to say much save that partisan finger pointing is wrong.
- 10/01/2011 10:30:51 PM
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First I don't even know who WorldNet is so I see no reasont o defend them
- 11/01/2011 01:36:44 PM
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For someone who doens't know who WND is you sure circled the wagons around them fast. 
- 11/01/2011 04:21:40 PM
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- 11/01/2011 04:21:40 PM
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No they are in no way the same
- 11/01/2011 05:06:43 PM
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They're precisely the same in tone.
- 11/01/2011 06:04:42 PM
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the only thing you have proven is that you have zero support for your argument
- 11/01/2011 06:36:14 PM
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Enough.
- 11/01/2011 10:18:59 PM
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your evidience is dribble and if that is the best you can I am sorry
- 11/01/2011 11:39:05 PM
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Liberals and Conservatives have rushed to frame Jared Lee Loughner’s motives...
- 10/01/2011 10:34:09 PM
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Which conseratives rushed to frame this for poltical gain?
- 11/01/2011 02:19:55 PM
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But that's how it always goes:"The animal is so treacherous; when it is attacked, it defends itself"
- 18/01/2011 03:15:35 PM
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