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Re: I don't think it's as fun as Sodom and Gomorrah, at least not post-crisis. Legolas Send a noteboard - 27/01/2011 08:42:21 PM
However, in the spirit of Biblical parallel, We have decided to reduce the number to ten. Findest thou ten who will speak Irish, if thou canst.

Define "will". Is it just the desire to learn it, or do they have to be willing to make concrete efforts within a given timespan? Because if it's the latter, I couldn't even include myself.
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So the Irish government has basically imploded. Stephen - 23/01/2011 04:47:10 PM 1790 Views
I am now confused Camilla - 23/01/2011 05:34:31 PM 1149 Views
You won't be the only person Stephen - 23/01/2011 06:21:23 PM 1048 Views
You do realize Britain is pretty much the envy of the Western world at the moment? Legolas - 23/01/2011 06:27:05 PM 1181 Views
Re: You do realize Britain is pretty much the envy of the Western world at the moment? Camilla - 23/01/2011 06:34:47 PM 1126 Views
I did. There was more violence than in ours, that's true (ours have none so far, knock on wood). Legolas - 23/01/2011 06:41:34 PM 1078 Views
Re: I did. There was more violence than in ours, that's true (ours have none so far, knock on wood). Camilla - 23/01/2011 06:43:41 PM 1038 Views
Those protests were only violent by British standards. Tim - 23/01/2011 11:54:15 PM 1214 Views
Really? Camilla - 24/01/2011 12:03:38 AM 1015 Views
But... Wibble - 24/01/2011 07:28:17 PM 1074 Views
Re: But... Camilla - 24/01/2011 07:30:39 PM 1324 Views
What protests? Wibble - 24/01/2011 07:26:49 PM 1152 Views
Re: What protests? Camilla - 24/01/2011 07:28:40 PM 1012 Views
Re: What protests? Nebhead - 25/01/2011 09:23:17 AM 1150 Views
There's a new objection Camilla - 25/01/2011 11:38:25 AM 1061 Views
I didn't object... Nebhead - 25/01/2011 11:47:11 AM 957 Views
Re: I didn't object... Camilla - 25/01/2011 11:49:36 AM 945 Views
If you look at the bottom of that list... Nebhead - 25/01/2011 11:58:24 AM 1005 Views
And Britain had to live with the Conservative Wilderness for 15 years before it could get there *NM* Roland00 - 24/01/2011 02:43:16 AM 542 Views
Should I start chiming in on Norwegian politics now that I'm here...? Joel - 24/01/2011 12:42:03 AM 1045 Views
Why not? Camilla - 24/01/2011 08:49:07 AM 1106 Views
'Cos I doubt you'll like what I have to say, for one thing. Joel - 26/01/2011 01:55:13 AM 1138 Views
Re: 'Cos I doubt you'll like what I have to say, for one thing. Camilla - 26/01/2011 08:42:04 AM 1159 Views
I misconstrued your sarcasm, sorry. Joel - 26/01/2011 10:23:40 AM 1302 Views
That's been a while coming, hasn't it? Cowen seems to be losing it. Legolas - 23/01/2011 05:48:30 PM 1088 Views
Certainly. he's been on dodgy ground for a couple months. Stephen - 23/01/2011 06:27:27 PM 1152 Views
Re: Certainly. he's been on dodgy ground for a couple months. Legolas - 23/01/2011 06:33:26 PM 1091 Views
Re: Certainly. he's been on dodgy ground for a couple months. Stephen - 23/01/2011 07:19:03 PM 1202 Views
Re: Certainly. he's been on dodgy ground for a couple months. Legolas - 23/01/2011 07:57:05 PM 1042 Views
Re: Certainly. he's been on dodgy ground for a couple months. Stephen - 23/01/2011 09:29:03 PM 1156 Views
Re: Certainly. he's been on dodgy ground for a couple months. Legolas - 23/01/2011 09:46:20 PM 1116 Views
I think Adams is an Irish citizen, and not a British one. Tim - 23/01/2011 11:45:34 PM 1073 Views
Re: I think Adams is an Irish citizen, and not a British one. Stephen - 23/01/2011 11:53:12 PM 1061 Views
The part that I find strange is... Tim - 23/01/2011 11:58:27 PM 1042 Views
Re: Certainly. he's been on dodgy ground for a couple months. Stephen - 23/01/2011 11:45:39 PM 946 Views
I found out something else today which makes it even better. Tim - 24/01/2011 10:37:45 PM 1265 Views
I was reading your post and going "what about the Chiltern Hundreds"? Legolas - 24/01/2011 10:44:32 PM 1057 Views
Today's news: it got better again! Tim - 26/01/2011 07:51:51 PM 1128 Views
Oh, alternatively we could elevate him to the House of Lords. Tim - 26/01/2011 11:08:44 PM 1089 Views
Awesome idea. Something like "Baron Adams of Londonderry", I'm thinking. *NM* Legolas - 27/01/2011 07:54:26 PM 526 Views
We made his arch-rival a Lord, after all, so it would only be fair. Tim - 28/01/2011 08:26:15 AM 1026 Views
"This is the voice of a life peer" Michael - 28/01/2011 02:18:04 PM 1156 Views
Here you go Elaine - 25/01/2011 12:55:33 PM 1187 Views
That's the site I found too. Tim - 25/01/2011 01:25:56 PM 1014 Views
Right. Elaine - 25/01/2011 01:42:49 PM 1258 Views
well, the only interesting thing in swedish politics is a wikileaks document and the reactions... jh - 23/01/2011 06:21:00 PM 1127 Views
That's interesting Stephen - 23/01/2011 06:32:05 PM 1094 Views
What is inappropriate about trying to keep out barbaric unskilled people? Tom - 23/01/2011 10:59:53 PM 1101 Views
The inappropriateness is the generalisation in the claim Camilla - 23/01/2011 11:16:52 PM 1096 Views
Generalizations are inappropriate when they are disproven by statistics, and appropriate when proven Tom - 24/01/2011 07:33:14 PM 1033 Views
I've looked into the statistics a bit more. Tom - 24/01/2011 09:11:52 PM 1039 Views
I take it you're talking about the Middle East in its most narrow sense here. Legolas - 24/01/2011 09:56:22 PM 1085 Views
... the fact that they are asylum seekers, and their skill certainly shouldn't matter in that case. jh - 24/01/2011 07:08:14 PM 969 Views
Schweden schafft sich ab, eh? Tom - 24/01/2011 07:31:33 PM 1250 Views
Not to mention... ßelals Girl - 26/01/2011 07:55:26 PM 957 Views
ßelals Girl - 26/01/2011 07:46:19 PM 1076 Views
Hopefully they'll stop using Irish officially as a way to cut down on unnecessary costs. Tom - 23/01/2011 10:57:08 PM 1038 Views
I'd support that Stephen - 23/01/2011 11:26:20 PM 1100 Views
Ironically, if you de-officialised Irish you could get EU money to help preserve it. Tim - 23/01/2011 11:48:14 PM 1002 Views
I never realised that Stephen - 23/01/2011 11:54:43 PM 1041 Views
But why, why? Tom - 24/01/2011 08:35:43 PM 979 Views
Because it's the only thing justifying their insistence they're not British? Legolas - 24/01/2011 10:03:54 PM 1047 Views
But all language learning should be purely voluntary (after what parents teach their children). Tom - 25/01/2011 03:05:28 AM 1024 Views
What, so you don't think students in high school should be taught foreign languages? Legolas - 25/01/2011 06:34:21 PM 1052 Views
Irish is the mother tongue of about 7,000-15,000 people at most. Tom - 26/01/2011 05:04:00 AM 1078 Views
Wikipedia says it's more like 40k-80k. Legolas - 26/01/2011 06:41:41 PM 1448 Views
And Elaine, Stephen, or any other Irish people here: do feel free to comment. *NM* Legolas - 26/01/2011 06:42:36 PM 530 Views
Inflated statistics from what I've read. Tom - 26/01/2011 09:45:51 PM 989 Views
They might be, indeed. Elaine - 27/01/2011 01:08:09 PM 1236 Views
More to the point, are YOU interested in learning Irish? Tom - 26/01/2011 05:15:18 AM 991 Views
Calling Ireland the new Sodom and Gomorrah, are you? Legolas - 26/01/2011 06:02:05 PM 1138 Views
I don't think it's as fun as Sodom and Gomorrah, at least not post-crisis. Tom - 26/01/2011 09:48:54 PM 1086 Views
Re: I don't think it's as fun as Sodom and Gomorrah, at least not post-crisis. Legolas - 27/01/2011 08:42:21 PM 974 Views
Presumably because they agree with J.R.R. Tolkien and Tómas Sæmundsson about language's importance. Tim - 24/01/2011 10:16:05 PM 1131 Views
So Australians and New Zealanders are really English then? Austrians are just Germans? Tom - 25/01/2011 03:01:14 AM 1086 Views
I never said I agreed . Tim - 25/01/2011 08:19:11 AM 1053 Views
I would suggest that a distinct dialect does the job just as well majander - 25/01/2011 02:23:59 PM 1097 Views
That's a very good point. Tom - 26/01/2011 05:06:32 AM 1068 Views
Indeed. Legolas - 26/01/2011 06:06:00 PM 1110 Views
The thing is, people who feel really strongly about that usually insist it's a separate language. Tim - 28/01/2011 04:20:57 PM 944 Views
It's really more about having a unique silly costume to wear at Miss Universe pageants. Tom - 26/01/2011 05:09:10 AM 926 Views
You're confusing what we sell to gullible American tourists with what we actually value . *NM* Tim - 28/01/2011 04:15:01 PM 477 Views
What the hell happened to the Celtic Tiger Country? *NM* Blaine - 24/01/2011 05:47:12 AM 602 Views
Thrown away on bling and tat, unfortunately. Elaine - 24/01/2011 01:01:27 PM 967 Views
The Celtic Tiger is dead, Ireland had a GDP contraction of 14% in the last two years. Roland00 - 24/01/2011 01:47:06 PM 1048 Views
It's still there, but it aimed a bit too high and got a bit scorched. Legolas - 24/01/2011 10:07:36 PM 934 Views
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