They're saying "We don't want YOU to rule, Mr Mubarak".
Sure, things have gotten out of hand, but that doesn't make their fears and frustrations any less valid.
Sure, things have gotten out of hand, but that doesn't make their fears and frustrations any less valid.
No, but it makes Mubaraks emergency powers, powers created precisely because of Egypts widespread domestic terrorism, a lot MORE valid. Sure, their fears and frustrations are valid; what are the rioters doing to alleviate them? They're paving the way for a sectarian government guided by the principles of a man who listed individual liberty chief among his criticisms of the West; what does anyone expect that to improve?
Worse, there's strong reason to believe the rioters are aware of and accept that. Things haven't just "gotten out of hand". This isn't the Salt March or the March on Washington. It's multiple, deliberate, pitched battles with the military and police, with a lot of people have been caught in the crossfire. That Mubarak's an awful leader doesn't justify that, but that does suggest Egypt could and likely will do worse than Mubarak. Give me some reason to think otherwise and I might endorse his overthrow, but right now the BEST I can offer is no endorsement for anyone.
It doesn't seem repression, political prisons, torture and murder will end whatever happens to Mubarak, so I see no reason to pick sides.
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If anyone's looking for up-to-date info on what's going on in Egypt
- 28/01/2011 08:08:31 PM
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Clarify: Democracy fans should favor the protesters because they have more violent thugs,right?
- 28/01/2011 11:37:48 PM
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and socialism fans should favor the violent dicator since he can bring order and subsidies
- 29/01/2011 12:16:37 AM
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He mainly seems to bring close diplomatic ties to the US and alternatives to the Muslim Brotherhood
- 29/01/2011 12:59:48 AM
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You might want to do a quick check on the political situation in Egypt at this time.
- 29/01/2011 11:37:02 AM
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I've done a quick one; it makes me question whether government by the protesters would be better.
- 29/01/2011 11:44:10 PM
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They're not saying "We want to rule".
- 30/01/2011 01:26:03 AM
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SOMEONE is going to rule.
- 30/01/2011 02:16:43 AM
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It's a fairly simple matter, really.
- 29/01/2011 11:52:41 AM
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The trouble with free elections is: They're free.
- 29/01/2011 11:53:22 PM
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A vote for dictatorship and against democracy it is. Just checking.
- 30/01/2011 12:08:41 AM
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I haven't cast a vote.
- 30/01/2011 02:02:11 AM
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Not one that counts no, but still.
- 30/01/2011 01:11:59 PM
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None of any kind.
- 31/01/2011 12:10:07 AM
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so you support tyranny of others if it makes things more comfortable for you?
- 30/01/2011 05:15:01 AM
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I oppose brutal oppression; I'm unconvinced either side in this will end it, thus I withhold support
- 30/01/2011 05:21:37 AM
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some times it is black and white
- 31/01/2011 12:37:36 AM
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I fully support their right to demand democracy; I don't expect they'll get it, whatever happens.
- 31/01/2011 01:45:23 AM
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You're not seriously expecting them to do their revolution American Revolution-style, are you?
- 29/01/2011 11:28:31 AM
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I think terrorizing innocents and torching buildings is a poor way to claim the moral highground.
- 29/01/2011 11:32:19 PM
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British Colonialism wasn't a walk in the park
- 30/01/2011 03:53:58 AM
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Comparatively speaking, yes, it really was. Or at least in the US - not always so much in Asia.
- 30/01/2011 10:42:53 AM
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Re: Comparatively speaking, yes, it really was. Or at least in the US - not always so much in Asia.
- 30/01/2011 02:32:52 PM
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You can't be serious.
- 30/01/2011 03:07:18 PM
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Pretty serious
- 30/01/2011 04:52:24 PM
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Re: Pretty serious
- 30/01/2011 05:11:50 PM
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This is ridicolous
- 30/01/2011 05:31:31 PM
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I wouldn't normally think this necessary with you, but okay: let's go back and see what I said.
- 30/01/2011 06:34:09 PM
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you forget that it was supposdely thier own citizens the British were abusing.
- 31/01/2011 12:39:33 AM
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Sure, but organized into hostile armies. A rather different matter, that. *NM*
- 31/01/2011 09:46:25 PM
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I dont know if this will help you understand what is going on there
- 30/01/2011 02:45:41 AM
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Yikes indeed
- 29/01/2011 03:57:25 AM
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Apparently Egypt blocked access to Facebook, Twitter and some other websites.
- 29/01/2011 11:38:46 AM
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Heh, her update was basically "Thanks for turning facebook back on, Egypt."
- 29/01/2011 06:36:49 PM
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There seems to be some big misconceptions about the Egyption crisis
- 31/01/2011 11:52:37 PM
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