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Here's a link for you Floffe Send a noteboard - 05/02/2011 06:28:42 PM
I'm inclined to agree with the idea of using Syria and, to a lesser extent, Iran, as "bellwethers". Whether we're seeing genuine pro-democracy protests or simply anti-Western overthrows of pro-Western governments using popular discontent as a means to an end may be answered by whether the tide turns against all violently repressive regimes or simply pro-Western ones. It's all well to say, as some have, that Hezbollahs takeover in Syria hasn't brought in Sharia law (after a whole MONTH, almost!) but the fact remains it's not exactly a charge toward democracy, it's the replacement of a government that allowed the CIA to conduct torture illegal in the US with a terrorist organization that will only increase the state sponsored terror that put Syria on the "Axis of Evil" (why we had a terrorist sponsor helping us torture people to stop terrorism is something you'll have to ask Mr. Bush). Beck's off his nut, as usual, but if this "grass roots" "region wide" "pro-democracy" movement merely transforms violently repressive pro-Western regimes into violently repressive anti-Western ones, while leaving already violently repressive anti-Western regimes not only unweakened but strengthened it does raise the very real question of whether the rest of the world has an accurate read on what's going on here. There really are worse people in the world than America. Honest. Taking their side just because they share a distaste for the US is as dangerously foolish as, say, calling Mubarak a socialist just because a liberal says getting rid of him won't automatically improve anything.

Popular uprisings in Muslim countries do not always lead to repressive theocracies.
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I watch/listen to Beck like I watch/listen to The Onion. - 04/02/2011 07:12:41 AM 811 Views
Are people really sure Beck hasnt started drinking again? *NM* - 03/02/2011 10:54:32 PM 403 Views
Mormon crazy Kool-aid is what he's drinking. *NM* - 04/02/2011 02:11:26 AM 361 Views
Yipeeeeee!!! LMAO. *NM* - 04/02/2011 02:34:38 AM 348 Views
I saw Guardian use the phrase balanced coverage and stopped - 04/02/2011 06:20:31 PM 816 Views
You always do this. - 05/02/2011 01:28:11 AM 834 Views
It is the irony I find funny - 07/02/2011 04:03:38 PM 755 Views
That after watching that you think the GUARDIAN'S the one over the top here? - 08/02/2011 04:02:04 PM 691 Views
sorry the Guardian is shit - 08/02/2011 04:21:09 PM 803 Views
Maybe, but I'll need evidence; regardless, that's not what this is about, is it? - 08/02/2011 04:48:06 PM 812 Views
I will buy they are both worthless - 08/02/2011 05:20:50 PM 916 Views
Oh, is Beck a "socialism fan favor[ing] the violent dicator since he can bring order and subsidies"? - 05/02/2011 08:04:17 AM 981 Views
So you are saying you have a lot in common with Glen Beck? - 07/02/2011 04:04:41 PM 922 Views
Not really. - 08/02/2011 03:46:10 PM 873 Views
it is easy to understand why Beck wants to defend Mubarak - 08/02/2011 04:23:11 PM 2261 Views
It fits his script. - 08/02/2011 04:47:05 PM 763 Views
really? can you back that statement up? - 08/02/2011 05:21:39 PM 726 Views
Glen Beck is my favorite! - 05/02/2011 07:00:28 AM 814 Views
Did find this linked article at your link interesting: - 05/02/2011 09:02:44 AM 1039 Views
Here's a link for you - 05/02/2011 06:28:42 PM 1077 Views
Interesting comparisons. - 06/02/2011 12:45:29 AM 981 Views
Been over all of this before, so I'll just point out that Lebanon is not Syria. *NM* - 05/02/2011 07:20:10 PM 401 Views
Oops.... - 06/02/2011 12:03:27 AM 929 Views
Gah. "Someone is wrong on the internet!", and all that, and I can't resist. - 06/02/2011 12:34:59 AM 940 Views
I know that feeling well. - 06/02/2011 01:50:41 AM 814 Views
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