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Agreed. Joel Send a noteboard - 12/04/2011 05:49:11 PM
I'm writing a story and have been asking people to answer some questions. If you don't mind, it would help me greatly!

In my story, souls have been proven to exist by science. However, souls have a biological origin. Also, science has proven that souls can be and do get reborn.

How would your religious beliefs be changed by this, if at all?


I'm Christian, and I think I wouldn't mind. I am the kind of Christian that does not believe scientific facts are clearly bunk if they don't work with what I've been told. I have no problem believing that a system with scientific laws was Created.

I'd have to think about the reincarnation for a moment.

If souls return to living breathing bodies it could be argued that what we perceive as "death" is something else (which seems the perspective of most transmigration beliefs), so as long as some closure ultimately occurs it seems reconcilable. Which is relevant to more than fiction.... ;)
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Questions about souls... Antigone - 12/04/2011 03:06:54 AM 2374 Views
Re: Questions about souls... @my - 12/04/2011 03:23:00 AM 1343 Views
All right. Vivien - 12/04/2011 05:50:08 AM 1333 Views
Re: Questions about souls... temeraire - 12/04/2011 06:27:14 AM 1307 Views
It would really depend on the mechanism Isaac - 12/04/2011 06:28:24 AM 1195 Views
You assume we all know, and agree on, what "soul" means. Tim - 12/04/2011 08:42:47 AM 1221 Views
It is what hope, which is a thing with feathers, perches on. Vivien - 12/04/2011 07:32:07 PM 1295 Views
But seriously, what does it do? Aeryn - 12/04/2011 11:01:58 PM 1291 Views
It makes poems pretty. Vivien - 13/04/2011 07:00:03 PM 1298 Views
Re: Yeah, exactly. Gaps - 15/04/2011 02:43:24 AM 1266 Views
Just going off the 'reborn' thing.. MightyYT - 12/04/2011 08:53:28 AM 1196 Views
Hm. nossy - 12/04/2011 03:22:01 PM 1299 Views
Agreed. Joel - 12/04/2011 05:49:11 PM 1170 Views
it wouldn't change much for me, but I'm pretty flexible in my spiritual beliefs LadyLorraine - 12/04/2011 04:23:34 PM 1327 Views
This. *NM* Avendesora - 13/04/2011 04:15:11 PM 694 Views
Re: Questions about souls... Joel - 12/04/2011 05:44:53 PM 1429 Views
What a fantasy. Vivien - 12/04/2011 07:57:38 PM 1272 Views
What happened to two? *NM* Ghavrel - 12/04/2011 08:20:41 PM 719 Views
Thanks, I fixed it. *NM* Vivien - 12/04/2011 08:29:20 PM 693 Views
Your comments, or mine? Joel - 13/04/2011 01:24:53 AM 1735 Views
You get one guess. Vivien - 13/04/2011 07:09:01 PM 1456 Views
One dismissive answer deserves another. Joel - 24/04/2011 12:54:44 AM 1331 Views
I'm a Christian who is partial to reincarnation, so I do not think much would change. Ghavrel - 12/04/2011 06:21:36 PM 1267 Views
*is disappointed* *NM* Vivien - 12/04/2011 08:01:05 PM 616 Views
You'd be surprised how frequently I get that from both sides. Ghavrel - 12/04/2011 08:22:24 PM 1241 Views
I bet you do! Vivien - 12/04/2011 08:47:59 PM 1220 Views
Re: I bet you do! Ghavrel - 13/04/2011 04:02:07 AM 1230 Views
Does it really? Joel - 24/04/2011 01:09:34 AM 1167 Views
OMG! Vivien - 14/04/2011 06:19:50 PM 1230 Views
Go expand his worldview. *NM* Ghavrel - 14/04/2011 06:56:03 PM 643 Views
I think we are similar in some respects philosophically. everynametaken - 13/04/2011 05:59:38 AM 1209 Views
That's pretty much how I feel. Being a universalist helps in that respect. *NM* Ghavrel - 13/04/2011 06:25:34 AM 694 Views
Who says.... Jeordam - 13/04/2011 07:11:24 PM 1161 Views
So then my question is.... Jeordam - 13/04/2011 07:08:42 PM 1153 Views
Because I believe that Jesus was an incarnation of the λόγος. Ghavrel - 14/04/2011 12:36:36 AM 1219 Views
*heh* Jeordam - 14/04/2011 04:12:32 PM 1313 Views
I think I answered it pretty clearly in my post title. *NM* Ghavrel - 14/04/2011 06:59:47 PM 696 Views
Actually, you didn't. Jeordam - 15/04/2011 12:12:42 AM 1262 Views
Re: Actually, you didn't. Ghavrel - 24/04/2011 09:04:04 AM 1235 Views
I think that, like a lot of other people responding, I would want and need more information. Tom - 12/04/2011 07:13:14 PM 1207 Views
Speaking of the agnostic/atheist thing Vivien - 12/04/2011 07:40:04 PM 1257 Views
99% that there is no God... LadyLorraine - 12/04/2011 08:08:42 PM 1284 Views
Technically, no, atheists simply lack belief in a God. Ghavrel - 12/04/2011 08:19:15 PM 1246 Views
Whoah there, Stephen - 12/04/2011 08:26:43 PM 1214 Views
Okay, I have to admit I wasn't expecting to get called out on that. Ghavrel - 13/04/2011 04:03:08 AM 1313 Views
no I think that's just the literal definition... LadyLorraine - 12/04/2011 11:19:18 PM 1139 Views
Isn't that what "technically" would imply? Ghavrel - 13/04/2011 04:04:42 AM 1356 Views
And that's why I don't quibble with %'s, I just say I'm an atheist *NM* Vivien - 12/04/2011 09:45:31 PM 738 Views
It certainly doesn't mean you can't make conclusions. Tom - 12/04/2011 08:09:41 PM 1338 Views
Re: Campbell: Gaps - 12/04/2011 08:42:09 PM 1309 Views
Self-identification is an interesting point here. Tom - 12/04/2011 09:00:46 PM 1260 Views
Re: Agree Gaps - 12/04/2011 09:22:22 PM 1253 Views
Sadly enough, one of my favorite explanations of religion came from someone discussing a video game. Ghavrel - 13/04/2011 04:12:23 AM 1262 Views
Re: I'm basically a Magi. I'm going to travel to Brazil and then take over the world. *NM* Gaps - 13/04/2011 04:18:25 AM 741 Views
Either you meant "Magus" or you are a schizophrenic wizard. Both are acceptably awesome. Ghavrel - 13/04/2011 05:37:34 AM 1248 Views
Re: I think it was Jarod Diamond... Gaps - 14/04/2011 03:39:32 AM 1231 Views
You didn't understand the comment. Tom - 14/04/2011 05:22:46 AM 1094 Views
Re: Ah, gotcha. I'm not always that bright. *NM* Gaps - 14/04/2011 02:08:03 PM 536 Views
Answers. Vivien - 12/04/2011 09:05:38 PM 1197 Views
That's not a compelling counter-argument for me. Tom - 12/04/2011 11:22:21 PM 1387 Views
Never mind. Aeryn - 12/04/2011 11:34:46 PM 1181 Views
be sure to post if it does happen *NM* random thoughts - 12/04/2011 11:56:17 PM 650 Views
Have you had any vivid dreams that came true? Tom - 13/04/2011 01:16:59 AM 1135 Views
My mom used to have dreams like that, usually about relatives. Joel - 13/04/2011 02:25:45 AM 1354 Views
I can easily believe that. Tom - 13/04/2011 06:14:51 AM 1162 Views
Taking things at face value is usually unwise, but the face value can still be correct. Joel - 24/04/2011 12:11:51 AM 1097 Views
Minivans can fit lots of useful stuffs, like furniture. *NM* Aeryn - 13/04/2011 03:47:04 PM 693 Views
So can gas-guzzling SUVs, and full trucks. *NM* Tom - 13/04/2011 05:13:20 PM 647 Views
for that matter, you can fit a surprising amount even in a baby truck! *NM* LadyLorraine - 13/04/2011 06:36:58 PM 625 Views
I'd find it quite comforting ßelals Girl - 12/04/2011 07:40:09 PM 1197 Views
Well, as I said in my census form on Sunday Stephen - 12/04/2011 08:36:05 PM 1328 Views
Pythagoras was a total nut. Vivien - 12/04/2011 10:05:42 PM 1319 Views
True Stephen - 12/04/2011 10:13:43 PM 1188 Views
It would upset my belief in science random thoughts - 12/04/2011 09:39:39 PM 1348 Views
There's so much wrong with that statement. Vivien - 12/04/2011 09:55:45 PM 1350 Views
If science proved there really was an Easter Bunny would it affect your believe in science? *NM* random thoughts - 12/04/2011 10:30:09 PM 743 Views
*is both bored and annoyed* Vivien - 12/04/2011 11:03:10 PM 1213 Views
right. Aeryn - 12/04/2011 11:18:31 PM 1401 Views
and what if science proved that science was false? random thoughts - 12/04/2011 11:48:32 PM 1284 Views
I think that's kind of the point; it can't. Joel - 13/04/2011 01:33:44 AM 1152 Views
Did you read my original post? random thoughts - 13/04/2011 03:13:34 AM 1141 Views
I did, yes. Joel - 13/04/2011 03:32:18 AM 1155 Views
Yes it would upset my belief in science, why is that so hard to accept random thoughts - 13/04/2011 01:56:59 PM 1288 Views
Well, if that's all it is, we know that a lot of that broad base is wrong. Joel - 24/04/2011 01:18:05 AM 1403 Views
What's a soul? Aeryn - 12/04/2011 10:51:39 PM 1185 Views
I can only give you my personal take. Joel - 13/04/2011 01:47:39 AM 1307 Views
Actually the reason you don't revive people denied oxygen half an hour is due to chemical processes. Ghavrel - 13/04/2011 04:08:37 AM 1270 Views
True, but even well preserved brains require more than a jump start to resume life. Joel - 23/04/2011 09:20:42 PM 1103 Views
so did this guy took a railroad spike through the head random thoughts - 13/04/2011 01:58:52 PM 1338 Views
Nah, he just got someone else's added to him. But now Ruin can influence him. *NM* Ghavrel - 13/04/2011 06:38:31 PM 698 Views
Thanks a lot random thoughts - 13/04/2011 07:02:29 PM 1186 Views
I'm really happy you've read them and got the reference. Phineas Gage, Steel Inquisitor. *NM* Ghavrel - 14/04/2011 12:29:01 AM 625 Views
No. Joel - 23/04/2011 09:15:16 PM 1200 Views
but we know personality can be draticaly altered by physical means random thoughts - 24/04/2011 03:28:36 AM 1541 Views
"We" don't know that; that's the problem. Joel - 24/04/2011 07:02:49 AM 1361 Views
Can one have an identity without memory? *NM* Aeryn - 13/04/2011 03:46:16 PM 665 Views
Sure. Joel - 23/04/2011 08:53:51 PM 1030 Views
I assume you're implying time travel between past-life or future-life experiences. Burr - 12/04/2011 11:26:19 PM 1241 Views
Re: My question about souls: who will save your souuuuls? *NM* Gaps - 13/04/2011 04:04:21 AM 666 Views
I would becoming interested in tracing people's souls across time/space Helene - 13/04/2011 04:00:51 PM 1193 Views
Re: I would becoming interested in tracing people's souls across time/space Antigone - 14/04/2011 03:29:55 AM 1272 Views
Sorry :-) Helene - 14/04/2011 10:15:30 AM 1268 Views
Interesting concept.... Jeordam - 13/04/2011 07:28:42 PM 1186 Views
Heh. Loose faith. LadyLorraine - 14/04/2011 02:32:27 AM 1176 Views
It kinda still works though....doesn't it? Jeordam - 14/04/2011 04:14:19 PM 1193 Views
it does work. well in fact! *NM* LadyLorraine - 24/04/2011 03:24:25 AM 673 Views
Oooh... Burr - 14/04/2011 04:31:30 AM 1250 Views
Who says..... Jeordam - 14/04/2011 04:26:31 PM 1311 Views
Wow, thanks for all the responses!! Antigone - 14/04/2011 03:42:38 AM 1338 Views
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