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you believe it because a blogger said so or is it simply a matter of faith? random thoughts Send a noteboard - 03/05/2011 05:26:53 PM
Because your link it really just random speculation. I think it would make more sense that they first learned his nick name then had to use fieldwork to find other sources for his real name. But of course that doesn't fit into the neat reality liberals have built for themselves so they just create a new one.

I don't know that they got this information form water boarding KSM but it is more likely than they fairytale your blogger through together where he held out until the questioners starting being nice and then he gave up the name. Wishing something was true doesn't make it true, sorry. I do understand how this issue hurts the delicate liberal mindset though. Since liberals tend to accept their believe systems as fact things that challenge those belief systems are often hard to accept and here we have two giant liberal truths being challenged. It is probably to much to ask a liberal to open his mind to the twin possibilities that harsh interrogation and Bush both played key roles in what they are heralding as proof that Obama will does posses leadership skills despite all the evidence to the contrary.
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As per ABC News - waterboarding worked in the locating/killing OBL..... - 02/05/2011 07:06:12 PM 907 Views
Many other violent methods would have worked as well, I'm sure. - 02/05/2011 07:41:58 PM 639 Views
That's actually the big issue, in my view - 02/05/2011 07:48:06 PM 579 Views
I have always been 100% okay with "torturing" the 4 terrorists via waterboarding..... - 02/05/2011 08:07:56 PM 599 Views
Yeah... but you think those 4 were the only ones? *NM* - 02/05/2011 08:11:48 PM 243 Views
I have no evidence/reason to think the government is lying about waterboarding. - 02/05/2011 08:18:34 PM 564 Views
Are you able to ask that w/o any sarcasm? - 02/05/2011 09:29:41 PM 585 Views
Er, yes? - 03/05/2011 01:10:37 AM 579 Views
Of course torture sometimes works. - 02/05/2011 07:45:01 PM 585 Views
Ends, means, yadda, yadda, yadda. *NM* - 02/05/2011 08:09:13 PM 243 Views
Nah, they probably got that tidbit withholding their daily Doritos ration. - 02/05/2011 08:28:49 PM 607 Views
I beleive if they hadn't torture them, we would've got the info much earlier - 02/05/2011 10:39:02 PM 895 Views
You have ifs and maybes, I have the facts and what happened. Waterboarding won this round. - 03/05/2011 04:07:24 AM 601 Views
You can wish. Waterboarding did nothing to help. *NM* - 03/05/2011 07:36:40 AM 264 Views
Quotes about so-called "waterboarding help" - 03/05/2011 04:00:13 PM 596 Views
you believe it because a blogger said so or is it simply a matter of faith? - 03/05/2011 05:26:53 PM 665 Views
Re: you believe it because a blogger said so or is it simply a matter of faith? - 03/05/2011 08:12:37 PM 756 Views
Leon Panette disagrees with you - 06/05/2011 04:12:24 PM 690 Views
Epic. - 02/05/2011 10:46:39 PM 629 Views
Well, according to Rumsfeld, waterboarding connection is bullshit. - 03/05/2011 01:07:58 AM 860 Views
Any actual facts on this yet? - 03/05/2011 04:04:38 PM 570 Views
it's as much of a link as the breakfast you had 6 years ago making you crash your car today - 03/05/2011 04:18:29 PM 566 Views
horseshit - 06/05/2011 04:14:57 PM 556 Views
come on you know torture doesn't work. The experts said so *NM* - 03/05/2011 05:13:12 PM 263 Views
Water boarding is not torture - 06/05/2011 12:41:06 PM 525 Views
Re: Water boarding is not torture - 06/05/2011 06:25:33 PM 591 Views

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