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torture was against our beliefs the first 225 years of our existence.... moondog Send a noteboard - 06/05/2011 04:16:19 PM
but you keep on trying to justify things that should automatically be against everything america stands for anyway :rolleyes:


Yeah... I'd say that you really need to take a long look in the mirror there moon...some of the things you say are SO hateful and hurtful to America it's amazing. But you live in cali and that's the norm .. so I almost forgive it.


i can see no reason to just give up what this nation was founded for, simply because it's expedient to do so.
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As per ABC News - waterboarding worked in the locating/killing OBL..... trzaska2000 - 02/05/2011 07:06:12 PM 1010 Views
Many other violent methods would have worked as well, I'm sure. nossy - 02/05/2011 07:41:58 PM 725 Views
That's actually the big issue, in my view beetnemesis - 02/05/2011 07:48:06 PM 674 Views
I have always been 100% okay with "torturing" the 4 terrorists via waterboarding..... trzaska2000 - 02/05/2011 08:07:56 PM 684 Views
Yeah... but you think those 4 were the only ones? *NM* beetnemesis - 02/05/2011 08:11:48 PM 278 Views
I have no evidence/reason to think the government is lying about waterboarding. trzaska2000 - 02/05/2011 08:18:34 PM 676 Views
Are you able to ask that w/o any sarcasm? nossy - 02/05/2011 09:29:41 PM 696 Views
Er, yes? beetnemesis - 03/05/2011 01:10:37 AM 672 Views
Of course torture sometimes works. beetnemesis - 02/05/2011 07:45:01 PM 684 Views
Ends, means, yadda, yadda, yadda. *NM* Dannymac - 02/05/2011 08:09:13 PM 283 Views
Nah, they probably got that tidbit withholding their daily Doritos ration. TaskmasterJack - 02/05/2011 08:28:49 PM 700 Views
Unless you can provide an actual link, this is just speculation by commentators. *NM* Variant - 02/05/2011 09:48:55 PM 326 Views
I beleive if they hadn't torture them, we would've got the info much earlier Skeeve the Great - 02/05/2011 10:39:02 PM 1027 Views
You have ifs and maybes, I have the facts and what happened. Waterboarding won this round. trzaska2000 - 03/05/2011 04:07:24 AM 697 Views
You can wish. Waterboarding did nothing to help. *NM* Skeeve the Great - 03/05/2011 07:36:40 AM 299 Views
Quotes about so-called "waterboarding help" Skeeve the Great - 03/05/2011 04:00:13 PM 697 Views
post your facts if you have them. so far you have offered nothing.... *NM* moondog - 03/05/2011 04:16:03 PM 308 Views
you believe it because a blogger said so or is it simply a matter of faith? random thoughts - 03/05/2011 05:26:53 PM 768 Views
Re: you believe it because a blogger said so or is it simply a matter of faith? Skeeve the Great - 03/05/2011 08:12:37 PM 862 Views
Leon Panette disagrees with you random thoughts - 06/05/2011 04:12:24 PM 797 Views
Epic. Dragonsoul - 02/05/2011 10:46:39 PM 732 Views
Well, according to Rumsfeld, waterboarding connection is bullshit. Skeeve the Great - 03/05/2011 01:07:58 AM 971 Views
Having a Pakistani government not in complicity with AQ would be better than waterboarding. *NM* Macharius - 03/05/2011 02:13:56 PM 284 Views
Any actual facts on this yet? snoopcester - 03/05/2011 04:04:38 PM 669 Views
it's as much of a link as the breakfast you had 6 years ago making you crash your car today moondog - 03/05/2011 04:18:29 PM 668 Views
Re: it's as much of a link as the breakfast you had 6 years ago making you crash your car today dart_board - 06/05/2011 12:43:26 PM 781 Views
torture was against our beliefs the first 225 years of our existence.... moondog - 06/05/2011 04:16:19 PM 636 Views
horseshit random thoughts - 06/05/2011 04:14:57 PM 659 Views
come on you know torture doesn't work. The experts said so *NM* random thoughts - 03/05/2011 05:13:12 PM 307 Views
Water boarding is not torture dart_board - 06/05/2011 12:41:06 PM 611 Views
Re: Water boarding is not torture Skeeve the Great - 06/05/2011 06:25:33 PM 708 Views
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