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You are totally missing the point. Darth_Katie Send a noteboard - 11/06/2011 02:46:08 PM
The important part is that it's been BLESSED.

Holy water makes one think of purity, of life, of being refreshed. So does regular water.


Not if you just scooped it up out of a toilet bowl or a sewer. xx(

Therefore, there's no reason why "normal" water (that is, not water that has been shit in, Ghav) couldn't be used in whatever rites supposedly demand "holy" water.

(Now, this all falls apart if you say that the physical substance does have some importance. But if that's the case, then we're back to "magic water," that is, water that has special properties that regular water does not.)


It does, it's been blessed! The special property is that it has been blessed by a priest, and because of that it is a more potent symbol. Sprinkling holy water is primarily supposed to remind one of the baptismal promises and thus a person's relationship with God. Blessing the water makes this aspect more pronounced - a clearer visible symbol of an invisible reality.

My little sister once accidentally drank a vial of holy water we had sitting in our kitchen because she was thirsty. It was fairly humorous.
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A question on baptism Camilla - 10/06/2011 09:21:44 AM 1013 Views
To my knowledge, baptism does not stem from the Resurrection. Ghavrel - 10/06/2011 11:01:17 AM 775 Views
What I meant Camilla - 10/06/2011 11:03:08 AM 604 Views
I don't follow. Ghavrel - 10/06/2011 11:08:07 AM 590 Views
Re: I don't follow. Camilla - 10/06/2011 11:10:40 AM 665 Views
I don't keep up with RC theology much. Ghavrel - 10/06/2011 11:15:52 AM 607 Views
Re: I don't keep up with RC theology much. Camilla - 10/06/2011 11:17:53 AM 562 Views
They should, IMHO, but the difficulty of definitively saying is why Limbo was created. Joel - 11/06/2011 10:39:26 AM 673 Views
Re: They should, IMHO, but the difficulty of definitively saying is why Limbo was created. Camilla - 11/06/2011 11:53:53 AM 593 Views
It's complicated? Joel - 11/06/2011 08:14:06 PM 656 Views
You haven't necessarily developed a wrong impression. Rebekah - 10/06/2011 11:50:53 AM 611 Views
Re: You haven't necessarily developed a wrong impression. Camilla - 10/06/2011 11:52:27 AM 547 Views
Re: You haven't necessarily developed a wrong impression. Rebekah - 10/06/2011 11:55:01 AM 609 Views
Re: You haven't necessarily developed a wrong impression. Camilla - 10/06/2011 11:58:36 AM 577 Views
Re: You haven't necessarily developed a wrong impression. Rebekah - 10/06/2011 12:16:46 PM 730 Views
Re: You haven't necessarily developed a wrong impression. Camilla - 10/06/2011 12:19:16 PM 573 Views
Re: You haven't necessarily developed a wrong impression. Rebekah - 10/06/2011 12:25:08 PM 797 Views
Re: You haven't necessarily developed a wrong impression. Camilla - 10/06/2011 12:26:30 PM 779 Views
Re: You haven't necessarily developed a wrong impression. Rebekah - 10/06/2011 12:28:45 PM 584 Views
Re: You haven't necessarily developed a wrong impression. Camilla - 10/06/2011 12:29:43 PM 607 Views
Re: You haven't necessarily developed a wrong impression. Rebekah - 10/06/2011 12:33:01 PM 464 Views
Re: You haven't necessarily developed a wrong impression. Camilla - 10/06/2011 12:34:36 PM 536 Views
Circumcision remains common among Christians mostly for symbolic reasons as well. Joel - 11/06/2011 10:48:48 AM 659 Views
Hm, I don't know. I don't think I know any non-Jews who are circumsized that see it as a symbol beetnemesis - 11/06/2011 04:44:02 PM 741 Views
I took a holy dip into the Ganges aerocontrols - 10/06/2011 11:48:26 AM 678 Views
Re: I took a holy dip into the Ganges Camilla - 10/06/2011 11:54:17 AM 734 Views
He dances and dips in The Ganges- Very Nice. *NM* StarrBecca - 11/06/2011 02:15:41 AM 252 Views
Three dips - that's the ceremony. aerocontrols - 11/06/2011 02:35:43 AM 535 Views
Early Christians and Jews were obsessed with purity Roland00 - 10/06/2011 12:56:58 PM 708 Views
Oh, I know about the historical/academic/anthropological reason Camilla - 10/06/2011 01:04:43 PM 652 Views
I misunderstood, lets try again Roland00 - 10/06/2011 01:44:43 PM 739 Views
Huh. *NM* Camilla - 10/06/2011 02:06:58 PM 299 Views
A first responce Bramhodoulos - 10/06/2011 02:09:32 PM 782 Views
Re: A first responce Camilla - 10/06/2011 02:15:07 PM 762 Views
Re: A first responce Bramhodoulos - 10/06/2011 02:19:25 PM 674 Views
Do you want a theological answer or a historical one? Tom - 10/06/2011 03:16:44 PM 759 Views
The theological. I already had a fairly good idea of the historical Camilla - 10/06/2011 03:18:51 PM 614 Views
My favorite fact about baptism is that is REQUIRES water... but it can be ANY water beetnemesis - 10/06/2011 04:31:12 PM 693 Views
That is absurd. Tom - 10/06/2011 08:37:13 PM 794 Views
It is absurd beetnemesis - 10/06/2011 08:56:19 PM 618 Views
When your post is eviscerated, resorting to "HURR RELIGION IS DUMB" isn't a winning move. Ghavrel - 10/06/2011 10:00:39 PM 722 Views
Psh.You can dress it up with spiritualism and semantics, but the concept boils down to "magic water" beetnemesis - 11/06/2011 03:56:03 AM 582 Views
The point is that it's a symbol. Darth_Katie - 11/06/2011 04:45:19 AM 583 Views
I have no problem with water as a symbol beetnemesis - 11/06/2011 04:59:52 AM 658 Views
You are totally missing the point. Darth_Katie - 11/06/2011 02:46:08 PM 745 Views
Which again, is something that sounds nice and spiritual, but doesn't actually make any sense beetnemesis - 11/06/2011 03:46:51 PM 713 Views
your problem is you're trying to apply objective logic to religion LadyLorraine - 11/06/2011 04:13:01 PM 970 Views
I'm not, exactly. Religion has internal logic. For example, certain things are "unclean" beetnemesis - 11/06/2011 04:40:33 PM 606 Views
Beliefs about holy water are internally logical. Darth_Katie - 11/06/2011 07:36:08 PM 650 Views
Shrug. It was on topic. beetnemesis - 11/06/2011 08:06:16 PM 921 Views
The more I read of your posts, the more I think you fundamentally misunderstand religious symbolism. *NM* Ghavrel - 11/06/2011 10:51:17 PM 255 Views
Let me clarify: your statements are absurd. Tom - 10/06/2011 10:14:06 PM 625 Views
Check my response to Ghav for elaboration, but basically, your argument doesn't hold beetnemesis - 11/06/2011 04:00:18 AM 606 Views
You went from saying spit was good to saying "clean water". Tom - 12/06/2011 02:04:26 AM 539 Views
I'm completely consistent. I was just staying away from extremes for conversation's sake. beetnemesis - 12/06/2011 09:02:02 AM 580 Views
No one from a respectable faith thinks of holy water as "magic water". Period. *NM* Tom - 13/06/2011 04:56:53 AM 258 Views
Yes, I KNOW. But it's still TREATED as such. beetnemesis - 13/06/2011 06:28:10 AM 531 Views
Baptism is almost, if not entirely, symbolic. Joel - 11/06/2011 10:23:02 AM 786 Views
Re: Baptism is almost, if not entirely, symbolic. Camilla - 11/06/2011 11:51:22 AM 776 Views
All I know, Is a Lutheran Pastor told me, b/c i was not baptised I was going to hell, and had *NM* StarrBecca - 11/06/2011 03:44:38 PM 234 Views
I never thought of it in that way, that is why I like this site *NM* Nolan - 12/06/2011 04:26:40 PM 273 Views
Because we are all nuts in our own special ways? *NM* Camilla - 12/06/2011 04:36:03 PM 246 Views
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