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Giving up porn (a male perspective) Postsecret Send a noteboard - 13/06/2011 04:29:52 PM
I debated whether or not to write this, because it's fairly personal. However, that is not the reason I'm using the Postsecret screen name. It doesn't bother me if you guys know the story and who I am (and it's not very difficult to figure out who I am if you want to). It's just that there are off-site reasons why I might not want this post connected to my user name, one of which is the privacy of the other person in the story, which is a consideration far beyond my own willingness to be open. So I trust that you'll indulge me, and hope that you'll be respectful.

The story goes like this: As a male who has been single for large parts of his adult life, I am no stranger to pornography. Few and far between were the days when I didn't look at something. There was no harm in it, and of course I'm not ashamed of it. It was there, I had desires, bada-boom. But some time ago I made the acquaintance of a lovely lady and we began serious dating which in time became much more. When out intimacy level reached its boiling point, I was naturally very excited, but then at first I had some difficulty. I chalked it up to inexperience, but when I caught myself having to think about porn in order to get off, I had to reconsider. I tried to dial down the amount of porn I was looking at, and it helped. I had more energy for her.

She soon learned of my occasional online viewing habits, naturally. She wasn't upset or anything, but she asked me to stop, to refrain while I had other options (namely, her). I could see where she was coming from, so I agreed.

Now, before any of you other guys out there jump in to call me whipped or emasculated or whatever, as certain guys seem to love to do for some reason, let me repeat: I agreed. Of course I could see why she wouldn't want me looking at technologically perfected women on my computer screen, investing a portion of my desire on them instead of on her. Especially since I was already trying to dial it back for the sake of our intimacy. If I were a woman I would probably feel the same way. She didn't care if I looked at it if she was gone somewhere and out of reach, but when I had her, she didn't want me to, she didn't want to feel like I was filling some part of my needs with fantasy women instead of with her, and I understood that.

And so I gave it up. Except it was immediately a lot harder than I thought it would be. I would find myself having cravings for pornography. I was so used to it, so used to looking at it whenever I wanted, that it took real willpower to stop myself, and sometimes I would slip. It's pretty clear that at some level, in some measure, I had been addicted to it. I can't blame myself for that, but in my current circumstances it had become something of a problem, and it was a bit of a wakeup call to realize as well. I can only speak for myself, but I prefer not to be addicted to things on mere principal alone. I like to be in control of myself and my actions, and however a person tells themself otherwise, addiction means you're not.

The effort has been ongoing but has also been entirely worth it. Our intimacy is consistent and satisfying, and I have no need to imagine anything with her. We have a very good relationship on multiple levels. I find that having all of my energy directed at her instead of siphoning some of it off for digital photos and videos is good for both of us.

Each to their own, of course, and I'm not suggesting that every guy would be the same way, and I'm not by any means trying to condemn porn because let's face it, guys have a lot of energy and it has to be directed somewhere. But in my own experience I think there is truth to the idea that constant exposure to porn affects the male libido, and has the potential to affect his relationship with women, whether that's through expectations or desires or whatever else. Maybe for some the effect is minimal, maybe for some there's no effect at all.

Yet, for me I think it's pretty clear that there was an effect. And I'm finding things much more satisfying with the effect removed, or at least severely dampened. I'm happy with my relationship and with my life, and at the end of the day that's what counts.

Of course, I agree with the women who have replied to this post about showing appreciation and not wanting to have to be like a porn star to satisfy a guy. People should be comfortable and should be themselves and enjoy themselves, wherever on the spectrum that happens to put them. I wouldn't want to feel pressure to have to measure up to the pure physical look and performance of male porn actors, and so even if that pressure might be more perceived than real, I wouldn't want my partner to feel that way either. So those are my thoughts.
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He’s Just Not That Into Anyone (an article about watching porn and men's changing libidos). - 11/06/2011 10:52:10 PM 3275 Views
I disagree with the whole last third or fourth of the article. - 12/06/2011 02:01:40 AM 1048 Views
Re: I disagree with the whole last third or fourth of the article. - 12/06/2011 08:49:39 PM 1345 Views
A lot of guys who get hooked on porn don't know how to approach women - 12/06/2011 10:55:17 PM 1270 Views
Funny - 13/06/2011 01:22:28 AM 1253 Views
You obviously never had a fulfilling long term sexual relationship with a woman. - 13/06/2011 10:43:23 AM 1045 Views
Oh My - 13/06/2011 03:29:34 PM 1059 Views
*giggle* - 13/06/2011 03:46:28 PM 1115 Views
What did I do to put a bee in your bonnet? *NM* - 13/06/2011 06:23:01 PM 486 Views
Bee? - 13/06/2011 06:24:35 PM 1052 Views
Oh, I tend to be loving and appreciative - 13/06/2011 05:08:56 PM 1003 Views
That isnt fair, Helene *NM* - 13/06/2011 06:22:25 PM 523 Views
What isn't fair? - 13/06/2011 08:07:08 PM 1267 Views
I'm not looking for someone to fix, but the not fair bit I was refering to was little irony dig *NM* - 13/06/2011 10:10:11 PM 536 Views
You don't need to be broken to enjoy being appreciated - 13/06/2011 10:17:01 PM 1012 Views
No, Helene, You repeatedly attempt to sidetrack discussion with attacks against my person - 13/06/2011 10:20:01 PM 1159 Views
But it makes me feel good - 13/06/2011 10:45:07 PM 1020 Views
I'm not a hedonist - 13/06/2011 10:57:25 PM 1189 Views
So indignant! - 13/06/2011 11:53:41 PM 1194 Views
I don't believe that at all. - 13/06/2011 04:48:26 AM 1162 Views
Entirely agree *NM* - 13/06/2011 04:33:04 PM 570 Views
Showing appreciation is a losing strategy. - 13/06/2011 04:55:09 AM 1122 Views
So you don't know how to open a woman up sexually - 13/06/2011 10:51:17 AM 1126 Views
Oh how clever of you! - 13/06/2011 09:59:01 PM 1218 Views
Not to gang up on you or anything, but... - 13/06/2011 10:15:57 PM 1148 Views
It's that the prudishness is indicative of a more general sense of entitlement and manipulativeness. - 13/06/2011 11:02:20 PM 1231 Views
Yes. And "passive-aggressive behavior" is another one I'd add. *NM* - 13/06/2011 11:18:40 PM 437 Views
So far in this debate, you've only displayed your feelings of entitlement - 14/06/2011 12:05:16 AM 1027 Views
Guys have their own problems, but the conversation is revolving around women at the moment. *NM* *NM* - 14/06/2011 01:23:20 AM 535 Views
The conversation did start being about MEN's problems. - 14/06/2011 03:36:36 AM 1094 Views
Be good, Ana. - 14/06/2011 03:40:12 AM 875 Views
You may be mistaken. - 14/06/2011 03:54:28 AM 1105 Views
Thats unfortuanate, Ana - 14/06/2011 03:58:50 AM 991 Views
I am introspecting, yes. - 14/06/2011 04:02:32 AM 991 Views
No, I wasnt attempting to do so - 14/06/2011 04:09:29 AM 1156 Views
Re: You may be mistaken. - 15/06/2011 01:21:16 AM 1157 Views
The only reason the conversation is revolving around women is because Tom laid all the blame at - 14/06/2011 07:35:34 AM 1185 Views
Let's be clear: I was speaking about American women *NM* - 14/06/2011 02:10:10 PM 443 Views
Oh, that part is quite clear. *NM* - 14/06/2011 08:25:08 PM 552 Views
Wow.. all the misogynists came out to play - 13/06/2011 11:57:05 PM 1199 Views
I'm glad you're in here. - 14/06/2011 12:04:03 AM 1157 Views
Seconded *NM* - 14/06/2011 04:46:38 PM 504 Views
I don't see a lot of misogyny. - 14/06/2011 12:59:06 AM 956 Views
You are blind to misogyny because you lack awareness in that area - 14/06/2011 07:38:48 AM 1034 Views
Okay, so I'm a date rapist and a misogynist...real classy - 14/06/2011 02:11:40 PM 952 Views
I neither called you a date rapist nor a misogynist - 14/06/2011 03:10:46 PM 997 Views
Why misogynist? Why not Anti-American? - 14/06/2011 01:32:17 AM 1519 Views
So, which women are better than American women? - 14/06/2011 03:38:38 AM 1185 Views
Re: Haha - 14/06/2011 04:18:46 AM 1068 Views
You seem very intent on coming off as the smartest guy in the room. - 14/06/2011 04:40:26 AM 1211 Views
I think that's an unfair characterization of the RP board - 14/06/2011 04:58:29 AM 1047 Views
Ha! I'm just fucking around. - 14/06/2011 05:14:20 AM 1077 Views
Re: Ha! I'm just fucking around. - 14/06/2011 05:42:37 AM 911 Views
Who are you, again? - 14/06/2011 05:07:04 AM 923 Views
Tsk. I need to be more memorable. - 14/06/2011 05:16:33 AM 1228 Views
Well, try to be more openminded. - 14/06/2011 05:22:52 AM 1131 Views
Fair enough. I do quite like Gaps. - 14/06/2011 05:31:05 AM 1129 Views
Why all this vitriol? - 14/06/2011 05:18:16 AM 1090 Views
Book clubs? Bullshit! women shouldn't be reading at all!!! - 15/06/2011 01:28:41 AM 1103 Views
Re: Oh wow, nice. - 14/06/2011 12:25:53 PM 956 Views
Perhaps one day I'll get a Chinese husband. - 14/06/2011 04:41:59 AM 1210 Views
Spain, Norway, Japan? - 14/06/2011 04:38:43 AM 1157 Views
Norway is the only one that passes. - 14/06/2011 01:14:54 PM 1012 Views
I really like the Netherlands - 14/06/2011 01:29:08 PM 1085 Views
Re: I really like the Netherlands - 14/06/2011 04:51:11 PM 973 Views
Why did I pick that one? Because you completely ignore men's part in a culture that sexually - 14/06/2011 07:54:39 AM 1162 Views
Helene, you're also not an American woman. - 14/06/2011 01:03:23 PM 1167 Views
You're not American either. *NM* - 14/06/2011 02:26:34 PM 402 Views
I didn't ignore it at all. I just bracketed it. It's quite possible, you know. - 14/06/2011 08:49:03 PM 1159 Views
You have strange expectations and ideas of me. *NM* - 14/06/2011 08:52:09 PM 474 Views
Likewise. BFF? *NM* - 14/06/2011 09:08:53 PM 439 Views
Nice! /me high Fives Helene!! *NM* - 14/06/2011 02:32:27 AM 411 Views
Oh, but I can do any and all of these things! - 14/06/2011 12:06:41 AM 1141 Views
I said there were exceptions. - 14/06/2011 03:50:27 AM 1012 Views
True. - 14/06/2011 09:03:46 PM 979 Views
hey! I really like your poem "name" - syllables knowing other lovers - excellent. - 15/06/2011 01:49:06 AM 951 Views
Thanks! *NM* - 15/06/2011 09:44:18 PM 537 Views
I agree. - 13/06/2011 01:23:51 PM 1110 Views
Obviously inside the bedroom. - 13/06/2011 05:17:31 PM 1204 Views
Inside the bedroom? Sure. I could agree. But you're not American anyway. - 13/06/2011 08:52:42 PM 1069 Views
You're basically just saying that American attitudes toward sex results in repressed women - 13/06/2011 09:03:47 PM 1162 Views
Theoretically they can be "unrepressed". But why waste the time and effort? - 13/06/2011 10:06:52 PM 1199 Views
How can you tell it's because she cares, instead of because that's what's traditionally expected - 13/06/2011 10:48:12 PM 1126 Views
That's a good point! *NM* - 15/06/2011 04:49:11 AM 522 Views
The answer is that it doesn't matter. - 16/06/2011 05:35:47 PM 1184 Views
I agree that the answer doesn't matter - 16/06/2011 07:09:44 PM 876 Views
It's funny - 13/06/2011 02:51:03 PM 1267 Views
Well of course you can't see the faults of American women. You're American. - 13/06/2011 08:51:35 PM 1167 Views
I'm sure that American women, along with all other women on earth - 13/06/2011 09:00:33 PM 1178 Views
It's not my job to make a girl comfortable about her sexuality. - 13/06/2011 10:03:27 PM 1096 Views
THIS *NM* - 13/06/2011 10:09:14 PM 505 Views
If the sex is all there is, then yes, makes sense. - 13/06/2011 10:18:15 PM 1168 Views
Who willingly goes into a relationship knowing the sex will be bad? - 14/06/2011 03:52:43 AM 1088 Views
You and your friends? - 14/06/2011 05:46:53 AM 1049 Views
And you don't think that the men in these relationships contributed to the current situation at all? - 14/06/2011 07:59:15 AM 883 Views
In this particular aspect, absolutely not. - 14/06/2011 02:19:33 PM 1048 Views
Of course I consider that you might be right - 14/06/2011 03:59:50 PM 1171 Views
I'm not ignoring any complexities - 14/06/2011 05:00:04 PM 1132 Views
Loads of people, if that's compensated by other things? - 14/06/2011 08:38:45 PM 1229 Views
I would rather be in a good marriage with bad sex than the other way around *NM* - 14/06/2011 10:33:27 PM 604 Views
I suspect that you are in a good marriage with good sex. - 16/06/2011 01:55:29 AM 1147 Views
Of course it is your job as a sex partner to make your partner feel comfortable about being with you - 13/06/2011 10:50:52 PM 1011 Views
THIS. *NM* - 13/06/2011 11:49:28 PM 481 Views
I was going to say the same. - 14/06/2011 12:11:18 AM 1201 Views
Like fucking Hell it is. - 14/06/2011 12:18:02 AM 958 Views
You're totally cracking me up in here. - 14/06/2011 12:30:39 AM 1106 Views
You think you're offending me? - 14/06/2011 01:10:56 AM 1123 Views
No. - 14/06/2011 08:01:45 PM 1139 Views
Have you ever been accused of date rape? - 14/06/2011 12:46:30 AM 915 Views
No. And that's an absurd question. - 14/06/2011 01:08:13 AM 1053 Views
No, the point you were arguing was absurd. I just pointed out what you were arguing. - 14/06/2011 08:03:13 AM 1175 Views
Let's cut the sophistry - 14/06/2011 02:24:52 PM 1152 Views
What's the definition of prude anyway? - 14/06/2011 03:58:03 PM 1030 Views
If that's what you wanted to say, it would have helped for you to be more explicit. - 14/06/2011 04:10:43 PM 1103 Views
"Why do these women use sex as a manipulative tool?" - 14/06/2011 05:06:33 PM 1138 Views
It seems to me there is a very simple answer to that question. - 14/06/2011 05:26:09 PM 1055 Views
I don't think it works at all. - 14/06/2011 05:48:48 PM 1006 Views
Your anecdotal evidence suggests otherwise. - 14/06/2011 06:31:28 PM 1274 Views
I don't think so. - 15/06/2011 03:50:25 AM 1029 Views
I agree with every single thing you just said. *NM* - 15/06/2011 05:03:05 AM 410 Views
Oddly enough, I do too - 15/06/2011 02:00:39 PM 1120 Views
I agree with Sareitha. Women do that because it (apears to) works for them, in the short term - 14/06/2011 08:28:11 PM 968 Views
I can't see that I would put up with that either - 14/06/2011 10:32:09 PM 1059 Views
Right - 14/06/2011 10:59:10 PM 1048 Views
mode was a typeo but I guess it still works - 14/06/2011 11:23:11 PM 1153 Views
A fairly self-aware American. With many female friends, even - 13/06/2011 11:59:34 PM 1139 Views
Yeah I don't buy that "most American girls are prudes" concept - 14/06/2011 04:10:37 PM 778 Views
I think most of it depends on the "type" of girl a guy goes for. - 14/06/2011 11:09:34 PM 1078 Views
some times there is a fine line between kinky and perverted sometimes there isn't - 14/06/2011 11:32:17 PM 1172 Views
A moment - 14/06/2011 05:01:05 PM 1034 Views
Camilla, I'm trying to keep this at arm's length a bit. - 14/06/2011 05:42:18 PM 1009 Views
But you started it. - 14/06/2011 08:43:47 PM 1104 Views
I did start it, yes. - 16/06/2011 03:32:54 PM 1040 Views
You should have quit before this. - 16/06/2011 03:46:01 PM 1133 Views
No, I shouldn't have. - 16/06/2011 04:03:21 PM 1076 Views
The problem with your list is that it's performance-oriented. - 16/06/2011 10:45:22 PM 1005 Views
Of course it's performance-oriented. - 16/06/2011 10:54:22 PM 960 Views
This really made me laugh - 16/06/2011 04:26:32 PM 1031 Views
Re: I did start it, yes. - 16/06/2011 03:46:06 PM 938 Views
Yes, we do! - 16/06/2011 04:04:02 PM 1140 Views
Having now looked over the smileys - 16/06/2011 04:09:55 PM 1108 Views
See what I'm talking about? - 16/06/2011 07:09:10 PM 1033 Views
That may have been the worst pun ever! *NM* - 17/06/2011 12:47:50 AM 513 Views
I try *NM* - 17/06/2011 09:57:32 AM 518 Views
Take is up the ass or you are a prude? - 16/06/2011 04:09:54 PM 1254 Views
You didn't read the list very well. - 16/06/2011 07:08:19 PM 1078 Views
It appears I didn't read it very well. I apologize for that - 16/06/2011 10:16:02 PM 1024 Views
No problems. - 16/06/2011 10:57:46 PM 964 Views
Re: The idea that If it hurts it's not being done right - Not neccessarily. - 17/06/2011 01:13:18 AM 1075 Views
It just requires more preparation. - 17/06/2011 04:49:52 AM 1432 Views
I have to say, I actually find this list reasonable. - 16/06/2011 04:35:40 PM 1045 Views
I agree - 16/06/2011 05:10:07 PM 956 Views
Exactly! It's the "nexus of activity" sort of idea. - 16/06/2011 07:18:33 PM 953 Views
If I weren't such a prude (3), I would post this list to facebook. - 16/06/2011 05:08:05 PM 1123 Views
In other words, you aren't a prude on that scale. - 16/06/2011 07:20:35 PM 977 Views
Eh - 16/06/2011 08:17:31 PM 1146 Views
You mixed up prudishness and sexual compatibility with you - 16/06/2011 05:21:31 PM 1164 Views
This. *NM* - 16/06/2011 06:18:41 PM 553 Views
No I didn't. - 16/06/2011 07:14:27 PM 1052 Views
Calling my response a knee jerk reaction is just silly, and in itself, a knee jerk response. - 16/06/2011 07:38:28 PM 1259 Views
Okay. I'm going to just stop replying. - 16/06/2011 08:28:02 PM 848 Views
Your world view is just too self referential to be - 16/06/2011 08:36:39 PM 1080 Views
As is yours. *NM* - 16/06/2011 08:44:10 PM 396 Views
That makes no sense. You have the narrower view. *NM* - 16/06/2011 09:07:37 PM 507 Views
So you say. *NM* - 16/06/2011 09:09:21 PM 502 Views
Question - 16/06/2011 07:42:37 PM 1058 Views
Ha Ha, who cares about the guy? It is only female sexuality that is on trial. - 16/06/2011 08:06:33 PM 984 Views
That is an incorrect assumption. - 16/06/2011 08:30:08 PM 1021 Views
Awww you didn't take my bait! - 16/06/2011 08:44:16 PM 944 Views
There's very little I haven't been willing to do - 16/06/2011 08:52:31 PM 1050 Views
Hehehe, But *I* recall it! - 16/06/2011 09:22:40 PM 1083 Views
Wait, I think I know what you're talking about. - 16/06/2011 09:27:20 PM 1040 Views
Damn, I was going to guess "in a coffin". - 16/06/2011 09:31:36 PM 1246 Views
Seriously? - 16/06/2011 09:50:20 PM 1073 Views
The girl was never a girlfriend or a sexual partner. - 16/06/2011 11:06:38 PM 1083 Views
I'm reminded of an ex of mine - 16/06/2011 08:32:34 PM 855 Views
That's really awful. - 16/06/2011 09:16:33 PM 1147 Views
Of course. - 16/06/2011 08:29:11 PM 891 Views
Fair enough *NM* - 17/06/2011 07:20:38 PM 513 Views
THIS!! LISTEN!! the woman is * lightbulb* speaking from a woman's perspective. - 14/06/2011 02:52:26 AM 1155 Views
Your way out of line - 14/06/2011 02:55:46 AM 946 Views
Wondering why we're still single, are we? Try a minimum of politeness first. - 14/06/2011 03:21:15 AM 906 Views
What B/c i sank you YOUR level? Piss Off. AS if I give 2 shits what you think about me. - 16/06/2011 02:19:04 AM 1243 Views
I read this. - 16/06/2011 03:40:51 AM 1149 Views
The name-calling is uncalled for, Rebecca - 16/06/2011 11:10:04 AM 1086 Views
Given the vehemence of your response, you do care. - 16/06/2011 03:19:42 PM 1174 Views
I appreciate the support, - 14/06/2011 10:37:20 PM 1100 Views
Your journal entry is revealing. You sound bitter and hurt. I hope you find the healing you need. - 15/06/2011 01:40:23 AM 1116 Views
You know what? not called for. *NM* - 15/06/2011 02:05:14 PM 373 Views
Why not? - 15/06/2011 11:59:36 PM 1018 Views
The first portion of what you said, isn't yours to say. - 16/06/2011 03:43:57 PM 827 Views
I'm with Anastasia on this. - 16/06/2011 06:39:56 PM 1168 Views
Re: It's funny - 14/06/2011 03:50:13 AM 1133 Views
Re: It's funny - 14/06/2011 10:28:32 PM 1199 Views
On a completely unrelated note - 14/06/2011 11:03:58 PM 1040 Views
Re: On a completely unrelated note - 14/06/2011 11:14:18 PM 1078 Views
Bummer *NM* - 14/06/2011 11:20:24 PM 504 Views
TMJ is right. - 15/06/2011 02:11:57 PM 1111 Views
Re: TMJ is right. - 16/06/2011 12:22:10 AM 1175 Views
Yes. - 16/06/2011 03:41:05 PM 976 Views
Re: Yes. - 17/06/2011 01:51:11 AM 922 Views
Gee thanks. - 17/06/2011 05:04:37 AM 1374 Views
Didn't suit you. - 18/06/2011 12:58:53 AM 1139 Views
On a totally unrelated note... - 15/06/2011 01:43:23 AM 1062 Views
Excuse me while I go hit something. A journalism major perhaps. *NM* - 12/06/2011 09:09:26 PM 505 Views
Stunning rebuttal!!! *NM* - 12/06/2011 10:07:39 PM 381 Views
Theres nothing there I really need to refute.... - 13/06/2011 01:20:43 AM 998 Views
Well, thanks for contributing nothing to the discussion. *NM* - 13/06/2011 04:41:56 AM 391 Views
Is there a reason you feel the need to jump up my ass? *NM* - 13/06/2011 05:16:53 AM 546 Views
Your winning personality? - 13/06/2011 03:45:09 PM 1083 Views
I'd say 'endearing' is the proper term. - 13/06/2011 10:43:01 PM 1010 Views
Nice name new. - 15/06/2011 01:44:25 AM 1031 Views
Wow. Interesting. *NM* - 13/06/2011 07:04:08 AM 471 Views
Giving up porn (a male perspective) - 13/06/2011 04:29:52 PM 1145 Views
Thanks for sharing. ^_^ *NM* - 13/06/2011 09:05:51 PM 532 Views
Re: It's a sexy topic, but all these generalizations are becoming wet blankets. - 14/06/2011 02:13:31 AM 1130 Views
I think you are spot on with the seal theory. - 14/06/2011 05:16:59 PM 1176 Views
[something less snarky] - 14/06/2011 10:17:18 PM 1207 Views
Re: What? - 15/06/2011 12:01:36 AM 1164 Views
Re: What? - 15/06/2011 12:20:56 AM 1120 Views
Re: How come your 1st edit is not at all what was originally posted? - 15/06/2011 03:06:02 AM 1165 Views
About time to reevaluate Tom's claims, I think, eh? *NM* - 15/06/2011 03:59:31 AM 513 Views
my turn: what? - 15/06/2011 04:12:51 AM 1188 Views
Wow, well speaking as a prude... - 14/06/2011 03:36:23 AM 1161 Views
Funny how so many fault lines rupture in the comments to posts like this - 14/06/2011 04:23:23 AM 1255 Views
To quote Cat Valente: - 14/06/2011 04:37:39 AM 976 Views
It is a two-way street, unfortunately - 14/06/2011 04:40:58 AM 1080 Views
so the problem is southern women are just not good enough for you? - 14/06/2011 01:51:30 PM 1072 Views
No, more like not similar enough - 14/06/2011 04:13:52 PM 1095 Views
Some people aren't cut out to be in a relationship - 14/06/2011 04:25:09 PM 1111 Views
True - 14/06/2011 04:56:05 PM 941 Views
As someone who has never lived under the same roof more than five consecutive years - 14/06/2011 06:06:10 PM 1182 Views
Job. Always a job matter. - 14/06/2011 11:22:33 PM 1225 Views
Try south Texas, you may not notice you are not in South America - 15/06/2011 02:44:21 AM 1021 Views
Ha! I used to live in the metro Miami area, so I know what you mean - 15/06/2011 03:20:41 AM 1080 Views
sweet jesus you are crazy - 15/06/2011 04:38:28 AM 921 Views
Maybe, but it certainly drains me of being involved much elsewhere - 15/06/2011 05:29:21 AM 1151 Views
Why all this vitriol? - 14/06/2011 05:19:47 AM 1052 Views
It started there here: - 14/06/2011 01:06:32 PM 1124 Views
Tom made an untenable comment - 14/06/2011 01:21:06 PM 1039 Views
Book clubs are scary places - 14/06/2011 05:03:03 PM 853 Views
Chocolate, wine, books. Also tea? - 14/06/2011 09:00:06 PM 1159 Views
Maybe without the wine? - 15/06/2011 05:06:53 AM 1040 Views
I don't feel particularly vitriolic. - 14/06/2011 10:18:44 PM 1054 Views
I didn't mean you... - 15/06/2011 05:24:56 AM 1048 Views
We haven't had one of these in a while! - 14/06/2011 06:36:18 AM 1125 Views
Agreed. I laughed, I cried, it was touching. *NM* - 14/06/2011 08:49:40 AM 376 Views
This post got more abused than a nasty Japanese bukkake! Lol. *NM* - 15/06/2011 10:07:04 AM 569 Views
I started to read this but got bored and looked at porn. - 14/06/2011 03:15:28 PM 1105 Views
Re: I started to read this but got bored and looked at porn. - 14/06/2011 03:27:51 PM 1190 Views
Oh yeah. - 14/06/2011 03:31:42 PM 1230 Views
- 14/06/2011 08:48:55 PM 1140 Views
I think I've read pretty much all of it. I think it's better than porn. Well, bad porn. - 14/06/2011 11:01:20 PM 1110 Views
that was funny *NM* - 15/06/2011 02:42:13 AM 387 Views
Bad porn is the worst! - 15/06/2011 02:13:59 PM 967 Views
You know what Tom, it occurs to me that this is very American thinking. - 15/06/2011 03:07:00 AM 1037 Views
Actually, my Russian guy friends tend to be more vehement than I am on this point. - 15/06/2011 05:12:51 AM 1376 Views
Huh, could it be because most Russians are atheist? - 15/06/2011 05:36:47 AM 1166 Views
That could be a major part of it - 16/06/2011 09:06:21 PM 1002 Views
Ah, you've seen EuroTrip, too. *NM* - 17/06/2011 01:52:27 AM 497 Views

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