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If that's what you wanted to say, it would have helped for you to be more explicit. Helene Send a noteboard - 14/06/2011 04:10:43 PM
You're just attempting to score points for the sake of scoring points. I said that it wasn't my responsibility to make a girl that I barely knew feel good about her sexuality. That's obviously not the same thing as "making her feel like she isn't a prisoner in my home".


It's not your job to invest a lot of time and energy in fixing a woman who is sexually broken. I fully agree with you.

My point has been, and continues to be, that the anecdotal evidence I have accumulated from friends all over the world and hundreds of relationships is that the problem with American female sexuality has not been capable of being resolved by "feeling appreciated".


You do realize there's a difference between the reliability of what equates to locker room talk and actual evidence, don't you? I categorically disbelieve that all American women are like this. I know plenty of American women who are not like this.

The American women feel appreciated inside and outside the bedroom and still choose to use sex as a manipulative tool, as a weapon and are uncomfortable with a wide spectrum of normal sexual activity.


And why do these women use sex as a manipulative tool?
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He’s Just Not That Into Anyone (an article about watching porn and men's changing libidos). everynametaken - 11/06/2011 10:52:10 PM 3515 Views
I disagree with the whole last third or fourth of the article. Tom - 12/06/2011 02:01:40 AM 1275 Views
Re: I disagree with the whole last third or fourth of the article. everynametaken - 12/06/2011 08:49:39 PM 1587 Views
A lot of guys who get hooked on porn don't know how to approach women Helene - 12/06/2011 10:55:17 PM 1490 Views
Funny Urza - 13/06/2011 01:22:28 AM 1445 Views
You obviously never had a fulfilling long term sexual relationship with a woman. Helene - 13/06/2011 10:43:23 AM 1233 Views
Oh My Urza - 13/06/2011 03:29:34 PM 1268 Views
*giggle* Camilla - 13/06/2011 03:46:28 PM 1322 Views
What did I do to put a bee in your bonnet? *NM* Urza - 13/06/2011 06:23:01 PM 609 Views
Bee? Camilla - 13/06/2011 06:24:35 PM 1246 Views
Oh, I tend to be loving and appreciative Helene - 13/06/2011 05:08:56 PM 1237 Views
That isnt fair, Helene *NM* Urza - 13/06/2011 06:22:25 PM 636 Views
What isn't fair? Helene - 13/06/2011 08:07:08 PM 1489 Views
I'm not looking for someone to fix, but the not fair bit I was refering to was little irony dig *NM* Urza - 13/06/2011 10:10:11 PM 655 Views
You don't need to be broken to enjoy being appreciated Helene - 13/06/2011 10:17:01 PM 1221 Views
No, Helene, You repeatedly attempt to sidetrack discussion with attacks against my person Urza - 13/06/2011 10:20:01 PM 1370 Views
But it makes me feel good Helene - 13/06/2011 10:45:07 PM 1241 Views
I'm not a hedonist Urza - 13/06/2011 10:57:25 PM 1395 Views
If you really wanted to debate the actual issue, you would have. *NM* Helene - 13/06/2011 11:51:53 PM 533 Views
So indignant! Novo - 13/06/2011 11:53:41 PM 1375 Views
I don't believe that at all. everynametaken - 13/06/2011 04:48:26 AM 1390 Views
Ok, perhaps I can't talk from experience... as that group of men has self selected out of the game Helene - 13/06/2011 10:47:59 AM 1290 Views
Entirely agree *NM* ironclad - 13/06/2011 04:33:04 PM 680 Views
Showing appreciation is a losing strategy. Tom - 13/06/2011 04:55:09 AM 1365 Views
So you don't know how to open a woman up sexually Helene - 13/06/2011 10:51:17 AM 1406 Views
Oh how clever of you! Tom - 13/06/2011 09:59:01 PM 1417 Views
Not to gang up on you or anything, but... Legolas - 13/06/2011 10:15:57 PM 1365 Views
If you'ld actually read his post Tom gave reasons beyond lack of sexual adventuressness *NM* Urza - 13/06/2011 10:17:11 PM 672 Views
Of which the "letting you do your own thing" was the only one I can take seriously. Legolas - 13/06/2011 10:30:10 PM 1206 Views
So rather than adress your disagreement on the facts you just pretended he didn't say them? *NM* Urza - 13/06/2011 10:34:02 PM 644 Views
Seriously? You're trying to debate now? Legolas - 13/06/2011 10:37:21 PM 1255 Views
Your disregard for rationality offends me. Urza - 13/06/2011 10:40:29 PM 1382 Views
I'm sure that there are Eastern European women who will fulfill the "traditionally female role"? Helene - 13/06/2011 10:43:43 PM 1344 Views
It's that the prudishness is indicative of a more general sense of entitlement and manipulativeness. Dan - 13/06/2011 11:02:20 PM 1442 Views
Yes. And "passive-aggressive behavior" is another one I'd add. *NM* Tom - 13/06/2011 11:18:40 PM 549 Views
So far in this debate, you've only displayed your feelings of entitlement Helene - 14/06/2011 12:05:16 AM 1260 Views
I give to the relationship. I give a shitload of money. Tom - 14/06/2011 12:13:47 AM 1263 Views
Bringing in money does not a relationship make. The rest, however, sounds a lot better Helene - 14/06/2011 12:38:45 AM 1314 Views
So Let me understand what you are saying... StarrBecca - 14/06/2011 02:40:50 AM 1350 Views
I'm not sure, based on that response, you're capable of understanding anything at all. Tom - 14/06/2011 03:17:37 AM 1360 Views
I can see why you might have trouble finding an American woman who would agree with that random thoughts - 14/06/2011 02:00:49 PM 1374 Views
Guys have their own problems, but the conversation is revolving around women at the moment. *NM* *NM* Dan - 14/06/2011 01:23:20 AM 654 Views
The conversation did start being about MEN's problems. Aeryn - 14/06/2011 03:36:36 AM 1300 Views
Be good, Ana. Urza - 14/06/2011 03:40:12 AM 1111 Views
You may be mistaken. Aeryn - 14/06/2011 03:54:28 AM 1341 Views
Thats unfortuanate, Ana Urza - 14/06/2011 03:58:50 AM 1209 Views
I am introspecting, yes. Aeryn - 14/06/2011 04:02:32 AM 1220 Views
No, I wasnt attempting to do so Urza - 14/06/2011 04:09:29 AM 1394 Views
Re: You may be mistaken. everynametaken - 15/06/2011 01:21:16 AM 1361 Views
The only reason the conversation is revolving around women is because Tom laid all the blame at Helene - 14/06/2011 07:35:34 AM 1402 Views
Let's be clear: I was speaking about American women *NM* Tom - 14/06/2011 02:10:10 PM 564 Views
Oh, that part is quite clear. *NM* nossy - 14/06/2011 08:25:08 PM 688 Views
Wow.. all the misogynists came out to play Helene - 13/06/2011 11:57:05 PM 1393 Views
I'm glad you're in here. nossy - 14/06/2011 12:04:03 AM 1378 Views
Seconded *NM* Camilla - 14/06/2011 04:46:38 PM 616 Views
I don't see a lot of misogyny. Tom - 14/06/2011 12:59:06 AM 1150 Views
You are blind to misogyny because you lack awareness in that area Helene - 14/06/2011 07:38:48 AM 1253 Views
Okay, so I'm a date rapist and a misogynist...real classy Tom - 14/06/2011 02:11:40 PM 1157 Views
I neither called you a date rapist nor a misogynist Helene - 14/06/2011 03:10:46 PM 1189 Views
Why misogynist? Why not Anti-American? Dan - 14/06/2011 01:32:17 AM 1757 Views
So, which women are better than American women? Aeryn - 14/06/2011 03:38:38 AM 1431 Views
Re: Haha Gaps - 14/06/2011 04:18:46 AM 1269 Views
You seem very intent on coming off as the smartest guy in the room. Dan - 14/06/2011 04:40:26 AM 1418 Views
I think that's an unfair characterization of the RP board Isaac - 14/06/2011 04:58:29 AM 1308 Views
Ha! I'm just fucking around. Dan - 14/06/2011 05:14:20 AM 1276 Views
Re: Ha! I'm just fucking around. Isaac - 14/06/2011 05:42:37 AM 1154 Views
Who are you, again? Vivien - 14/06/2011 05:07:04 AM 1130 Views
Tsk. I need to be more memorable. Dan - 14/06/2011 05:16:33 AM 1429 Views
Well, try to be more openminded. Vivien - 14/06/2011 05:22:52 AM 1343 Views
Fair enough. I do quite like Gaps. Dan - 14/06/2011 05:31:05 AM 1349 Views
Why all this vitriol? Vivien - 14/06/2011 05:18:16 AM 1340 Views
Book clubs? Bullshit! women shouldn't be reading at all!!! everynametaken - 15/06/2011 01:28:41 AM 1299 Views
Re: Oh wow, nice. Gaps - 14/06/2011 12:25:53 PM 1179 Views
Perhaps one day I'll get a Chinese husband. Aeryn - 14/06/2011 04:41:59 AM 1457 Views
Er, see my post withe country names in it. I hate this messageboard layout. *NM* *NM* Dan - 14/06/2011 04:50:31 AM 633 Views
Spain, Norway, Japan? Dan - 14/06/2011 04:38:43 AM 1365 Views
Norway is the only one that passes. Aeryn - 14/06/2011 01:14:54 PM 1225 Views
I really like the Netherlands Helene - 14/06/2011 01:29:08 PM 1310 Views
Re: I really like the Netherlands Camilla - 14/06/2011 04:51:11 PM 1177 Views
Why did I pick that one? Because you completely ignore men's part in a culture that sexually Helene - 14/06/2011 07:54:39 AM 1372 Views
Helene, you're also not an American woman. Aeryn - 14/06/2011 01:03:23 PM 1376 Views
It's the people who make sweeping generalisations about American women who need to defend themselves Helene - 14/06/2011 01:18:43 PM 1211 Views
You're not American either. *NM* Tom - 14/06/2011 02:26:34 PM 502 Views
I didn't ignore it at all. I just bracketed it. It's quite possible, you know. Dan - 14/06/2011 08:49:03 PM 1364 Views
You have strange expectations and ideas of me. *NM* Helene - 14/06/2011 08:52:09 PM 616 Views
Likewise. BFF? *NM* Dan - 14/06/2011 09:08:53 PM 547 Views
I don't exactly expect to influence your opinion, just to voice my own. Helene - 13/06/2011 10:40:39 PM 1225 Views
The last part summed it up nicely. That was all I thought you meant anyway. Tashmere - 14/06/2011 03:17:45 AM 1219 Views
Nice! /me high Fives Helene!! *NM* StarrBecca - 14/06/2011 02:32:27 AM 520 Views
Oh, but I can do any and all of these things! Novo - 14/06/2011 12:06:41 AM 1372 Views
I said there were exceptions. Tom - 14/06/2011 03:50:27 AM 1231 Views
True. Novo - 14/06/2011 09:03:46 PM 1163 Views
hey! I really like your poem "name" - syllables knowing other lovers - excellent. everynametaken - 15/06/2011 01:49:06 AM 1152 Views
Thanks! *NM* Novo - 15/06/2011 09:44:18 PM 647 Views
I agree. Aeryn - 13/06/2011 01:23:51 PM 1318 Views
Obviously inside the bedroom. Helene - 13/06/2011 05:17:31 PM 1403 Views
Inside the bedroom? Sure. I could agree. But you're not American anyway. Tom - 13/06/2011 08:52:42 PM 1264 Views
You're basically just saying that American attitudes toward sex results in repressed women Helene - 13/06/2011 09:03:47 PM 1394 Views
Theoretically they can be "unrepressed". But why waste the time and effort? Tom - 13/06/2011 10:06:52 PM 1402 Views
How can you tell it's because she cares, instead of because that's what's traditionally expected Helene - 13/06/2011 10:48:12 PM 1345 Views
That's a good point! *NM* Vivien - 15/06/2011 04:49:11 AM 625 Views
The answer is that it doesn't matter. Vivien - 16/06/2011 05:35:47 PM 1392 Views
I agree that the answer doesn't matter Helene - 16/06/2011 07:09:44 PM 1080 Views
It's funny nossy - 13/06/2011 02:51:03 PM 1452 Views
Well of course you can't see the faults of American women. You're American. Tom - 13/06/2011 08:51:35 PM 1368 Views
I'm sure that American women, along with all other women on earth Helene - 13/06/2011 09:00:33 PM 1389 Views
It's not my job to make a girl comfortable about her sexuality. Tom - 13/06/2011 10:03:27 PM 1305 Views
THIS *NM* Urza - 13/06/2011 10:09:14 PM 607 Views
If the sex is all there is, then yes, makes sense. Legolas - 13/06/2011 10:18:15 PM 1376 Views
Who willingly goes into a relationship knowing the sex will be bad? Tom - 14/06/2011 03:52:43 AM 1286 Views
You and your friends? Vivien - 14/06/2011 05:46:53 AM 1267 Views
And you don't think that the men in these relationships contributed to the current situation at all? Helene - 14/06/2011 07:59:15 AM 1090 Views
In this particular aspect, absolutely not. Tom - 14/06/2011 02:19:33 PM 1250 Views
Of course I consider that you might be right Helene - 14/06/2011 03:59:50 PM 1386 Views
I'm not ignoring any complexities Tom - 14/06/2011 05:00:04 PM 1328 Views
^ And this response immediately above is my last. This is eating into a real workday now. ^ Tom - 14/06/2011 05:53:43 PM 1265 Views
Loads of people, if that's compensated by other things? Legolas - 14/06/2011 08:38:45 PM 1438 Views
I would rather be in a good marriage with bad sex than the other way around *NM* random thoughts - 14/06/2011 10:33:27 PM 716 Views
I suspect that you are in a good marriage with good sex. Tashmere - 16/06/2011 01:55:29 AM 1337 Views
Of course it is your job as a sex partner to make your partner feel comfortable about being with you Helene - 13/06/2011 10:50:52 PM 1218 Views
THIS. *NM* globug0822 - 13/06/2011 11:49:28 PM 597 Views
I was going to say the same. nossy - 14/06/2011 12:11:18 AM 1407 Views
Like fucking Hell it is. Tom - 14/06/2011 12:18:02 AM 1162 Views
You're totally cracking me up in here. nossy - 14/06/2011 12:30:39 AM 1337 Views
You think you're offending me? Tom - 14/06/2011 01:10:56 AM 1342 Views
No. nossy - 14/06/2011 08:01:45 PM 1370 Views
Have you ever been accused of date rape? Helene - 14/06/2011 12:46:30 AM 1112 Views
No. And that's an absurd question. Tom - 14/06/2011 01:08:13 AM 1242 Views
No, the point you were arguing was absurd. I just pointed out what you were arguing. Helene - 14/06/2011 08:03:13 AM 1378 Views
Let's cut the sophistry Tom - 14/06/2011 02:24:52 PM 1354 Views
What's the definition of prude anyway? Vivien - 14/06/2011 03:58:03 PM 1220 Views
If that's what you wanted to say, it would have helped for you to be more explicit. Helene - 14/06/2011 04:10:43 PM 1353 Views
"Why do these women use sex as a manipulative tool?" Tom - 14/06/2011 05:06:33 PM 1330 Views
It seems to me there is a very simple answer to that question. Sareitha Sedai - 14/06/2011 05:26:09 PM 1317 Views
I don't think it works at all. Tom - 14/06/2011 05:48:48 PM 1213 Views
Your anecdotal evidence suggests otherwise. Sareitha Sedai - 14/06/2011 06:31:28 PM 1474 Views
I don't think so. Tashmere - 15/06/2011 03:50:25 AM 1232 Views
I agree with every single thing you just said. *NM* Tom - 15/06/2011 05:03:05 AM 522 Views
Oddly enough, I do too Sareitha Sedai - 15/06/2011 02:00:39 PM 1367 Views
I agree with Sareitha. Women do that because it (apears to) works for them, in the short term Helene - 14/06/2011 08:28:11 PM 1174 Views
I can't see that I would put up with that either random thoughts - 14/06/2011 10:32:09 PM 1272 Views
Right nossy - 14/06/2011 10:59:10 PM 1241 Views
mode was a typeo but I guess it still works random thoughts - 14/06/2011 11:23:11 PM 1384 Views
I haven't tried it either. Seems to me like that is closely related to The Silent Treatment. Tashmere - 15/06/2011 03:43:45 AM 1390 Views
A fairly self-aware American. With many female friends, even nossy - 13/06/2011 11:59:34 PM 1351 Views
Yeah I don't buy that "most American girls are prudes" concept random thoughts - 14/06/2011 04:10:37 PM 952 Views
I think most of it depends on the "type" of girl a guy goes for. nossy - 14/06/2011 11:09:34 PM 1278 Views
some times there is a fine line between kinky and perverted sometimes there isn't random thoughts - 14/06/2011 11:32:17 PM 1360 Views
A moment Camilla - 14/06/2011 05:01:05 PM 1251 Views
Camilla, I'm trying to keep this at arm's length a bit. Tom - 14/06/2011 05:42:18 PM 1266 Views
But you started it. nossy - 14/06/2011 08:43:47 PM 1327 Views
I did start it, yes. Tom - 16/06/2011 03:32:54 PM 1232 Views
You should have quit before this. Aeryn - 16/06/2011 03:46:01 PM 1354 Views
No, I shouldn't have. Tom - 16/06/2011 04:03:21 PM 1249 Views
The problem with your list is that it's performance-oriented. Aeryn - 16/06/2011 10:45:22 PM 1231 Views
Of course it's performance-oriented. Tom - 16/06/2011 10:54:22 PM 1156 Views
This really made me laugh Sareitha Sedai - 16/06/2011 04:26:32 PM 1258 Views
Re: I did start it, yes. Camilla - 16/06/2011 03:46:06 PM 1154 Views
Yes, we do! Tom - 16/06/2011 04:04:02 PM 1327 Views
Having now looked over the smileys Camilla - 16/06/2011 04:09:55 PM 1292 Views
See what I'm talking about? Tom - 16/06/2011 07:09:10 PM 1255 Views
That may have been the worst pun ever! *NM* Tashmere - 17/06/2011 12:47:50 AM 637 Views
I try *NM* Camilla - 17/06/2011 09:57:32 AM 618 Views
Take is up the ass or you are a prude? random thoughts - 16/06/2011 04:09:54 PM 1487 Views
Maybe Tom will make allowances for preferences instead of an unwillingness because it's "wrong"? *NM* Helene - 16/06/2011 04:22:45 PM 605 Views
You didn't read the list very well. Tom - 16/06/2011 07:08:19 PM 1287 Views
It appears I didn't read it very well. I apologize for that random thoughts - 16/06/2011 10:16:02 PM 1204 Views
No problems. Tom - 16/06/2011 10:57:46 PM 1180 Views
Re: The idea that If it hurts it's not being done right - Not neccessarily. Tashmere - 17/06/2011 01:13:18 AM 1291 Views
It just requires more preparation. Tom - 17/06/2011 04:49:52 AM 1640 Views
I have to say, I actually find this list reasonable. Sareitha Sedai - 16/06/2011 04:35:40 PM 1262 Views
I agree nossy - 16/06/2011 05:10:07 PM 1151 Views
Exactly! It's the "nexus of activity" sort of idea. Tom - 16/06/2011 07:18:33 PM 1162 Views
If I weren't such a prude (3), I would post this list to facebook. nossy - 16/06/2011 05:08:05 PM 1329 Views
In other words, you aren't a prude on that scale. Tom - 16/06/2011 07:20:35 PM 1184 Views
Eh nossy - 16/06/2011 08:17:31 PM 1377 Views
You mixed up prudishness and sexual compatibility with you Helene - 16/06/2011 05:21:31 PM 1396 Views
This. *NM* Camilla - 16/06/2011 06:18:41 PM 684 Views
No I didn't. Tom - 16/06/2011 07:14:27 PM 1238 Views
Calling my response a knee jerk reaction is just silly, and in itself, a knee jerk response. Helene - 16/06/2011 07:38:28 PM 1486 Views
Okay. I'm going to just stop replying. Tom - 16/06/2011 08:28:02 PM 1066 Views
Your world view is just too self referential to be Helene - 16/06/2011 08:36:39 PM 1278 Views
As is yours. *NM* Tom - 16/06/2011 08:44:10 PM 497 Views
That makes no sense. You have the narrower view. *NM* Helene - 16/06/2011 09:07:37 PM 609 Views
So you say. *NM* Tom - 16/06/2011 09:09:21 PM 646 Views
Question ßelals Girl - 16/06/2011 07:42:37 PM 1286 Views
Ha Ha, who cares about the guy? It is only female sexuality that is on trial. Vivien - 16/06/2011 08:06:33 PM 1169 Views
That is an incorrect assumption. Tom - 16/06/2011 08:30:08 PM 1241 Views
Awww you didn't take my bait! Vivien - 16/06/2011 08:44:16 PM 1164 Views
There's very little I haven't been willing to do Tom - 16/06/2011 08:52:31 PM 1263 Views
Hehehe, But *I* recall it! Vivien - 16/06/2011 09:22:40 PM 1305 Views
Wait, I think I know what you're talking about. Tom - 16/06/2011 09:27:20 PM 1248 Views
Damn, I was going to guess "in a coffin". Sareitha Sedai - 16/06/2011 09:31:36 PM 1439 Views
She's significantly younger than O'Donnell, and was better looking. Tom - 16/06/2011 09:33:51 PM 1259 Views
Seriously? Vivien - 16/06/2011 09:50:20 PM 1349 Views
The girl was never a girlfriend or a sexual partner. Tom - 16/06/2011 11:06:38 PM 1275 Views
I'm reminded of an ex of mine Helene - 16/06/2011 08:32:34 PM 1069 Views
That's really awful. Vivien - 16/06/2011 09:16:33 PM 1350 Views
When you're with a person who appreciates you, it's not like that at all Helene - 16/06/2011 09:29:32 PM 1055 Views
Of course. Tom - 16/06/2011 08:29:11 PM 1097 Views
Fair enough *NM* ßelals Girl - 17/06/2011 07:20:38 PM 623 Views
THIS!! LISTEN!! the woman is * lightbulb* speaking from a woman's perspective. StarrBecca - 14/06/2011 02:52:26 AM 1367 Views
Your way out of line Urza - 14/06/2011 02:55:46 AM 1149 Views
Wondering why we're still single, are we? Try a minimum of politeness first. Tom - 14/06/2011 03:21:15 AM 1127 Views
Where did I insinuate you can't please women? *NM* Helene - 14/06/2011 08:05:14 AM 519 Views
I refer you to "So you don't know how to open a woman up sexually" *NM* Tom - 14/06/2011 02:09:40 PM 544 Views
That's not about pleasing, that's about making someone feel confident and safe Helene - 14/06/2011 04:13:24 PM 1317 Views
What B/c i sank you YOUR level? Piss Off. AS if I give 2 shits what you think about me. StarrBecca - 16/06/2011 02:19:04 AM 1458 Views
Becca, can you pinpoint the moment you became a bitter worndown shell of a woman? *NM* Urza - 16/06/2011 03:21:21 AM 612 Views
I read this. Ectheledhel - 16/06/2011 03:40:51 AM 1376 Views
The name-calling is uncalled for, Rebecca ironclad - 16/06/2011 11:10:04 AM 1318 Views
Given the vehemence of your response, you do care. Tom - 16/06/2011 03:19:42 PM 1384 Views
I appreciate the support, nossy - 14/06/2011 10:37:20 PM 1328 Views
Your journal entry is revealing. You sound bitter and hurt. I hope you find the healing you need. everynametaken - 15/06/2011 01:40:23 AM 1320 Views
You know what? not called for. *NM* Aeryn - 15/06/2011 02:05:14 PM 465 Views
Why not? everynametaken - 15/06/2011 11:59:36 PM 1212 Views
The first portion of what you said, isn't yours to say. Aeryn - 16/06/2011 03:43:57 PM 1005 Views
I'm with Anastasia on this. Legolas - 16/06/2011 06:39:56 PM 1364 Views
Re: It's funny Aeryn - 14/06/2011 03:50:13 AM 1341 Views
Re: It's funny nossy - 14/06/2011 10:28:32 PM 1425 Views
On a completely unrelated note ironclad - 14/06/2011 11:03:58 PM 1237 Views
Re: On a completely unrelated note TaskmasterJack - 14/06/2011 11:14:18 PM 1255 Views
Bummer *NM* ironclad - 14/06/2011 11:20:24 PM 607 Views
TMJ is right. Aeryn - 15/06/2011 02:11:57 PM 1305 Views
Re: TMJ is right. TaskmasterJack - 16/06/2011 12:22:10 AM 1385 Views
Yes. Aeryn - 16/06/2011 03:41:05 PM 1173 Views
Re: Yes. TaskmasterJack - 17/06/2011 01:51:11 AM 1110 Views
Gee thanks. Aeryn - 17/06/2011 05:04:37 AM 1580 Views
Didn't suit you. TaskmasterJack - 18/06/2011 12:58:53 AM 1341 Views
On a totally unrelated note... everynametaken - 15/06/2011 01:43:23 AM 1281 Views
Excuse me while I go hit something. A journalism major perhaps. *NM* Urza - 12/06/2011 09:09:26 PM 621 Views
Stunning rebuttal!!! *NM* everynametaken - 12/06/2011 10:07:39 PM 480 Views
Theres nothing there I really need to refute.... Urza - 13/06/2011 01:20:43 AM 1180 Views
Well, thanks for contributing nothing to the discussion. *NM* everynametaken - 13/06/2011 04:41:56 AM 489 Views
Is there a reason you feel the need to jump up my ass? *NM* Urza - 13/06/2011 05:16:53 AM 660 Views
Your winning personality? Camilla - 13/06/2011 03:45:09 PM 1270 Views
I'd say 'endearing' is the proper term. Novo - 13/06/2011 10:43:01 PM 1237 Views
Nice name new. everynametaken - 15/06/2011 01:44:25 AM 1225 Views
Wow. Interesting. *NM* globug0822 - 13/06/2011 07:04:08 AM 599 Views
Giving up porn (a male perspective) Postsecret - 13/06/2011 04:29:52 PM 1354 Views
Thanks for sharing. ^_^ *NM* globug0822 - 13/06/2011 09:05:51 PM 646 Views
of course looking at tons of porn all the time is going to affect men random thoughts - 13/06/2011 11:15:02 PM 1427 Views
You make a lot of sense, thanks for posting and adding your perspective. *NM* Helene - 14/06/2011 12:11:03 AM 497 Views
Re: It's a sexy topic, but all these generalizations are becoming wet blankets. Gaps - 14/06/2011 02:13:31 AM 1351 Views
I think this and the replies by Post Secret and random thoughts all kind of get at my ideas here. Sareitha Sedai - 14/06/2011 02:30:52 PM 1389 Views
There is way too much crap in this thread, but I give this reply my seal of approval. *NM* Nate - 14/06/2011 05:02:04 PM 637 Views
I think you are spot on with the seal theory. Camilla - 14/06/2011 05:16:59 PM 1366 Views
Dirty motherfuckers! We need to lift all bans on whaling immediately to stem this momentum! *NM* everynametaken - 15/06/2011 01:56:30 AM 631 Views
[something less snarky] nossy - 14/06/2011 10:17:18 PM 1411 Views
Re: What? Gaps - 15/06/2011 12:01:36 AM 1363 Views
Re: What? nossy - 15/06/2011 12:20:56 AM 1333 Views
Re: How come your 1st edit is not at all what was originally posted? Gaps - 15/06/2011 03:06:02 AM 1353 Views
About time to reevaluate Tom's claims, I think, eh? *NM* Dan - 15/06/2011 03:59:31 AM 620 Views
my turn: what? nossy - 15/06/2011 04:12:51 AM 1399 Views
Wow, well speaking as a prude... Isaac - 14/06/2011 03:36:23 AM 1388 Views
Funny how so many fault lines rupture in the comments to posts like this Larry - 14/06/2011 04:23:23 AM 1460 Views
To quote Cat Valente: Aeryn - 14/06/2011 04:37:39 AM 1227 Views
It is a two-way street, unfortunately Larry - 14/06/2011 04:40:58 AM 1298 Views
so the problem is southern women are just not good enough for you? random thoughts - 14/06/2011 01:51:30 PM 1274 Views
No, more like not similar enough Larry - 14/06/2011 04:13:52 PM 1304 Views
Some people aren't cut out to be in a relationship Helene - 14/06/2011 04:25:09 PM 1318 Views
True Larry - 14/06/2011 04:56:05 PM 1147 Views
As someone who has never lived under the same roof more than five consecutive years random thoughts - 14/06/2011 06:06:10 PM 1383 Views
Job. Always a job matter. Larry - 14/06/2011 11:22:33 PM 1419 Views
Try south Texas, you may not notice you are not in South America random thoughts - 15/06/2011 02:44:21 AM 1249 Views
Ha! I used to live in the metro Miami area, so I know what you mean Larry - 15/06/2011 03:20:41 AM 1272 Views
sweet jesus you are crazy random thoughts - 15/06/2011 04:38:28 AM 1108 Views
Maybe, but it certainly drains me of being involved much elsewhere Larry - 15/06/2011 05:29:21 AM 1343 Views
Why all this vitriol? Vivien - 14/06/2011 05:19:47 AM 1259 Views
It started there here: Aeryn - 14/06/2011 01:06:32 PM 1316 Views
Tom made an untenable comment Helene - 14/06/2011 01:21:06 PM 1245 Views
Interestingly, the article talked about men being prudish in their real lives. Aeryn - 14/06/2011 03:27:00 PM 1351 Views
I figure this may be true, but I can't speak from a lot of experience. Helene - 14/06/2011 04:23:08 PM 1194 Views
I was writing a lengthy reply to disagree, but then I ended up rather close to where you stand. Legolas - 14/06/2011 09:17:55 PM 1275 Views
I think men do worry if their wife is to focused on sex random thoughts - 14/06/2011 10:26:56 PM 1375 Views
Re: I think men do worry if their wife is to focused on sex Macharius - 15/06/2011 02:26:30 PM 1183 Views
Book clubs are scary places Camilla - 14/06/2011 05:03:03 PM 1036 Views
Chocolate, wine, books. Also tea? Novo - 14/06/2011 09:00:06 PM 1364 Views
Maybe without the wine? Vivien - 15/06/2011 05:06:53 AM 1228 Views
I don't feel particularly vitriolic. nossy - 14/06/2011 10:18:44 PM 1241 Views
I didn't mean you... Vivien - 15/06/2011 05:24:56 AM 1231 Views
We haven't had one of these in a while! ßelals Girl - 14/06/2011 06:36:18 AM 1328 Views
Agreed. I laughed, I cried, it was touching. *NM* Ghavrel - 14/06/2011 08:49:40 AM 468 Views
Yes, it takes a good flame war to get the engines firing on all cylinders. Stephen - 14/06/2011 02:00:20 PM 1188 Views
This post got more abused than a nasty Japanese bukkake! Lol. *NM* everynametaken - 15/06/2011 10:07:04 AM 679 Views
I started to read this but got bored and looked at porn. Tigr - 14/06/2011 03:15:28 PM 1301 Views
Re: I started to read this but got bored and looked at porn. Aeryn - 14/06/2011 03:27:51 PM 1390 Views
Oh yeah. Tigr - 14/06/2011 03:31:42 PM 1443 Views
nossy - 14/06/2011 08:48:55 PM 1328 Views
I think I've read pretty much all of it. I think it's better than porn. Well, bad porn. TaskmasterJack - 14/06/2011 11:01:20 PM 1309 Views
that was funny *NM* random thoughts - 15/06/2011 02:42:13 AM 493 Views
Bad porn is the worst! Tigr - 15/06/2011 02:13:59 PM 1175 Views
You know what Tom, it occurs to me that this is very American thinking. Vivien - 15/06/2011 03:07:00 AM 1260 Views
Actually, my Russian guy friends tend to be more vehement than I am on this point. Tom - 15/06/2011 05:12:51 AM 1581 Views
Huh, could it be because most Russians are atheist? Vivien - 15/06/2011 05:36:47 AM 1383 Views
That could be a major part of it Tom - 16/06/2011 09:06:21 PM 1222 Views
Well, there's no question that a prior consultation with me could strengthen any argument. *NM* Vivien - 16/06/2011 10:36:12 PM 571 Views
Ah, you've seen EuroTrip, too. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 17/06/2011 01:52:27 AM 610 Views
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