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"Why do these women use sex as a manipulative tool?" Tom Send a noteboard - 14/06/2011 05:06:33 PM
That's a wonderful question and I think that trying to answer it would require greater scrutiny of America in general. Passive-aggressive behavior is on the rise in the US, as is general pettiness. Violence is on the rise, but people aren't clear how and when they have a right to be indignant. The behavior of the entire nation is becoming more and more juvenile. Withholding sex as the result of personal caprice is a very self-defeating strategy for a relationship - it just helps fuel the rising divorce rate.

That goes in about fifty directions at once, granted, but it's still only the tip of the iceberg (to excuse the pun). An entire series of symposia could be held by psychiatrists, psychologists and sociologists about why America is juvenile, why it is violent and why American women have, on average, some very repressed ideas on sexuality.
Political correctness is the pettiest form of casuistry.

ἡ δὲ κἀκ τριῶν τρυπημάτων ἐργαζομένη ἐνεκάλει τῇ φύσει, δυσφορουμένη, ὅτι δὴ μὴ καὶ τοὺς τιτθοὺς αὐτῇ εὐρύτερον ἢ νῦν εἰσι τρυπώη, ὅπως καὶ ἄλλην ἐνταῦθα μίξιν ἐπιτεχνᾶσθαι δυνατὴ εἴη. – Procopius

Ummaka qinnassa nīk!

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He’s Just Not That Into Anyone (an article about watching porn and men's changing libidos). - 11/06/2011 10:52:10 PM 3258 Views
I disagree with the whole last third or fourth of the article. - 12/06/2011 02:01:40 AM 1031 Views
Re: I disagree with the whole last third or fourth of the article. - 12/06/2011 08:49:39 PM 1315 Views
A lot of guys who get hooked on porn don't know how to approach women - 12/06/2011 10:55:17 PM 1248 Views
Funny - 13/06/2011 01:22:28 AM 1224 Views
You obviously never had a fulfilling long term sexual relationship with a woman. - 13/06/2011 10:43:23 AM 1017 Views
Oh My - 13/06/2011 03:29:34 PM 1025 Views
*giggle* - 13/06/2011 03:46:28 PM 1083 Views
What did I do to put a bee in your bonnet? *NM* - 13/06/2011 06:23:01 PM 474 Views
Bee? - 13/06/2011 06:24:35 PM 1018 Views
Oh, I tend to be loving and appreciative - 13/06/2011 05:08:56 PM 985 Views
That isnt fair, Helene *NM* - 13/06/2011 06:22:25 PM 511 Views
What isn't fair? - 13/06/2011 08:07:08 PM 1246 Views
I'm not looking for someone to fix, but the not fair bit I was refering to was little irony dig *NM* - 13/06/2011 10:10:11 PM 526 Views
You don't need to be broken to enjoy being appreciated - 13/06/2011 10:17:01 PM 988 Views
No, Helene, You repeatedly attempt to sidetrack discussion with attacks against my person - 13/06/2011 10:20:01 PM 1132 Views
But it makes me feel good - 13/06/2011 10:45:07 PM 995 Views
I'm not a hedonist - 13/06/2011 10:57:25 PM 1168 Views
So indignant! - 13/06/2011 11:53:41 PM 1167 Views
I don't believe that at all. - 13/06/2011 04:48:26 AM 1144 Views
Entirely agree *NM* - 13/06/2011 04:33:04 PM 558 Views
Showing appreciation is a losing strategy. - 13/06/2011 04:55:09 AM 1104 Views
So you don't know how to open a woman up sexually - 13/06/2011 10:51:17 AM 1102 Views
Oh how clever of you! - 13/06/2011 09:59:01 PM 1190 Views
Not to gang up on you or anything, but... - 13/06/2011 10:15:57 PM 1124 Views
It's that the prudishness is indicative of a more general sense of entitlement and manipulativeness. - 13/06/2011 11:02:20 PM 1194 Views
Yes. And "passive-aggressive behavior" is another one I'd add. *NM* - 13/06/2011 11:18:40 PM 422 Views
So far in this debate, you've only displayed your feelings of entitlement - 14/06/2011 12:05:16 AM 998 Views
Guys have their own problems, but the conversation is revolving around women at the moment. *NM* *NM* - 14/06/2011 01:23:20 AM 524 Views
The conversation did start being about MEN's problems. - 14/06/2011 03:36:36 AM 1066 Views
Be good, Ana. - 14/06/2011 03:40:12 AM 848 Views
You may be mistaken. - 14/06/2011 03:54:28 AM 1076 Views
Thats unfortuanate, Ana - 14/06/2011 03:58:50 AM 971 Views
I am introspecting, yes. - 14/06/2011 04:02:32 AM 968 Views
No, I wasnt attempting to do so - 14/06/2011 04:09:29 AM 1128 Views
Re: You may be mistaken. - 15/06/2011 01:21:16 AM 1134 Views
The only reason the conversation is revolving around women is because Tom laid all the blame at - 14/06/2011 07:35:34 AM 1160 Views
Let's be clear: I was speaking about American women *NM* - 14/06/2011 02:10:10 PM 432 Views
Oh, that part is quite clear. *NM* - 14/06/2011 08:25:08 PM 541 Views
Wow.. all the misogynists came out to play - 13/06/2011 11:57:05 PM 1176 Views
I'm glad you're in here. - 14/06/2011 12:04:03 AM 1133 Views
Seconded *NM* - 14/06/2011 04:46:38 PM 492 Views
I don't see a lot of misogyny. - 14/06/2011 12:59:06 AM 929 Views
You are blind to misogyny because you lack awareness in that area - 14/06/2011 07:38:48 AM 1007 Views
Okay, so I'm a date rapist and a misogynist...real classy - 14/06/2011 02:11:40 PM 925 Views
I neither called you a date rapist nor a misogynist - 14/06/2011 03:10:46 PM 969 Views
Why misogynist? Why not Anti-American? - 14/06/2011 01:32:17 AM 1494 Views
So, which women are better than American women? - 14/06/2011 03:38:38 AM 1157 Views
Re: Haha - 14/06/2011 04:18:46 AM 1035 Views
You seem very intent on coming off as the smartest guy in the room. - 14/06/2011 04:40:26 AM 1178 Views
I think that's an unfair characterization of the RP board - 14/06/2011 04:58:29 AM 1021 Views
Ha! I'm just fucking around. - 14/06/2011 05:14:20 AM 1057 Views
Re: Ha! I'm just fucking around. - 14/06/2011 05:42:37 AM 884 Views
Who are you, again? - 14/06/2011 05:07:04 AM 902 Views
Tsk. I need to be more memorable. - 14/06/2011 05:16:33 AM 1198 Views
Well, try to be more openminded. - 14/06/2011 05:22:52 AM 1108 Views
Fair enough. I do quite like Gaps. - 14/06/2011 05:31:05 AM 1102 Views
Why all this vitriol? - 14/06/2011 05:18:16 AM 1061 Views
Book clubs? Bullshit! women shouldn't be reading at all!!! - 15/06/2011 01:28:41 AM 1081 Views
Re: Oh wow, nice. - 14/06/2011 12:25:53 PM 916 Views
Perhaps one day I'll get a Chinese husband. - 14/06/2011 04:41:59 AM 1184 Views
Spain, Norway, Japan? - 14/06/2011 04:38:43 AM 1131 Views
Norway is the only one that passes. - 14/06/2011 01:14:54 PM 979 Views
I really like the Netherlands - 14/06/2011 01:29:08 PM 1057 Views
Re: I really like the Netherlands - 14/06/2011 04:51:11 PM 943 Views
Why did I pick that one? Because you completely ignore men's part in a culture that sexually - 14/06/2011 07:54:39 AM 1133 Views
Helene, you're also not an American woman. - 14/06/2011 01:03:23 PM 1142 Views
You're not American either. *NM* - 14/06/2011 02:26:34 PM 388 Views
I didn't ignore it at all. I just bracketed it. It's quite possible, you know. - 14/06/2011 08:49:03 PM 1130 Views
You have strange expectations and ideas of me. *NM* - 14/06/2011 08:52:09 PM 461 Views
Likewise. BFF? *NM* - 14/06/2011 09:08:53 PM 428 Views
Nice! /me high Fives Helene!! *NM* - 14/06/2011 02:32:27 AM 401 Views
Oh, but I can do any and all of these things! - 14/06/2011 12:06:41 AM 1115 Views
I said there were exceptions. - 14/06/2011 03:50:27 AM 984 Views
True. - 14/06/2011 09:03:46 PM 952 Views
hey! I really like your poem "name" - syllables knowing other lovers - excellent. - 15/06/2011 01:49:06 AM 926 Views
Thanks! *NM* - 15/06/2011 09:44:18 PM 527 Views
I agree. - 13/06/2011 01:23:51 PM 1080 Views
Obviously inside the bedroom. - 13/06/2011 05:17:31 PM 1183 Views
Inside the bedroom? Sure. I could agree. But you're not American anyway. - 13/06/2011 08:52:42 PM 1048 Views
You're basically just saying that American attitudes toward sex results in repressed women - 13/06/2011 09:03:47 PM 1132 Views
Theoretically they can be "unrepressed". But why waste the time and effort? - 13/06/2011 10:06:52 PM 1170 Views
How can you tell it's because she cares, instead of because that's what's traditionally expected - 13/06/2011 10:48:12 PM 1106 Views
That's a good point! *NM* - 15/06/2011 04:49:11 AM 509 Views
The answer is that it doesn't matter. - 16/06/2011 05:35:47 PM 1162 Views
I agree that the answer doesn't matter - 16/06/2011 07:09:44 PM 853 Views
It's funny - 13/06/2011 02:51:03 PM 1240 Views
Well of course you can't see the faults of American women. You're American. - 13/06/2011 08:51:35 PM 1136 Views
I'm sure that American women, along with all other women on earth - 13/06/2011 09:00:33 PM 1160 Views
It's not my job to make a girl comfortable about her sexuality. - 13/06/2011 10:03:27 PM 1060 Views
THIS *NM* - 13/06/2011 10:09:14 PM 491 Views
If the sex is all there is, then yes, makes sense. - 13/06/2011 10:18:15 PM 1143 Views
Who willingly goes into a relationship knowing the sex will be bad? - 14/06/2011 03:52:43 AM 1061 Views
You and your friends? - 14/06/2011 05:46:53 AM 1027 Views
And you don't think that the men in these relationships contributed to the current situation at all? - 14/06/2011 07:59:15 AM 854 Views
In this particular aspect, absolutely not. - 14/06/2011 02:19:33 PM 1027 Views
Of course I consider that you might be right - 14/06/2011 03:59:50 PM 1147 Views
I'm not ignoring any complexities - 14/06/2011 05:00:04 PM 1107 Views
Loads of people, if that's compensated by other things? - 14/06/2011 08:38:45 PM 1204 Views
I would rather be in a good marriage with bad sex than the other way around *NM* - 14/06/2011 10:33:27 PM 594 Views
I suspect that you are in a good marriage with good sex. - 16/06/2011 01:55:29 AM 1123 Views
Of course it is your job as a sex partner to make your partner feel comfortable about being with you - 13/06/2011 10:50:52 PM 988 Views
THIS. *NM* - 13/06/2011 11:49:28 PM 468 Views
I was going to say the same. - 14/06/2011 12:11:18 AM 1173 Views
Like fucking Hell it is. - 14/06/2011 12:18:02 AM 933 Views
You're totally cracking me up in here. - 14/06/2011 12:30:39 AM 1072 Views
You think you're offending me? - 14/06/2011 01:10:56 AM 1079 Views
No. - 14/06/2011 08:01:45 PM 1109 Views
Have you ever been accused of date rape? - 14/06/2011 12:46:30 AM 887 Views
No. And that's an absurd question. - 14/06/2011 01:08:13 AM 997 Views
No, the point you were arguing was absurd. I just pointed out what you were arguing. - 14/06/2011 08:03:13 AM 1144 Views
Let's cut the sophistry - 14/06/2011 02:24:52 PM 1129 Views
What's the definition of prude anyway? - 14/06/2011 03:58:03 PM 1006 Views
If that's what you wanted to say, it would have helped for you to be more explicit. - 14/06/2011 04:10:43 PM 1073 Views
"Why do these women use sex as a manipulative tool?" - 14/06/2011 05:06:33 PM 1117 Views
It seems to me there is a very simple answer to that question. - 14/06/2011 05:26:09 PM 1027 Views
I don't think it works at all. - 14/06/2011 05:48:48 PM 981 Views
Your anecdotal evidence suggests otherwise. - 14/06/2011 06:31:28 PM 1248 Views
I don't think so. - 15/06/2011 03:50:25 AM 1007 Views
I agree with every single thing you just said. *NM* - 15/06/2011 05:03:05 AM 398 Views
Oddly enough, I do too - 15/06/2011 02:00:39 PM 1096 Views
I agree with Sareitha. Women do that because it (apears to) works for them, in the short term - 14/06/2011 08:28:11 PM 942 Views
I can't see that I would put up with that either - 14/06/2011 10:32:09 PM 1031 Views
Right - 14/06/2011 10:59:10 PM 1022 Views
mode was a typeo but I guess it still works - 14/06/2011 11:23:11 PM 1126 Views
A fairly self-aware American. With many female friends, even - 13/06/2011 11:59:34 PM 1116 Views
Yeah I don't buy that "most American girls are prudes" concept - 14/06/2011 04:10:37 PM 751 Views
I think most of it depends on the "type" of girl a guy goes for. - 14/06/2011 11:09:34 PM 1054 Views
some times there is a fine line between kinky and perverted sometimes there isn't - 14/06/2011 11:32:17 PM 1154 Views
A moment - 14/06/2011 05:01:05 PM 1008 Views
Camilla, I'm trying to keep this at arm's length a bit. - 14/06/2011 05:42:18 PM 982 Views
But you started it. - 14/06/2011 08:43:47 PM 1082 Views
I did start it, yes. - 16/06/2011 03:32:54 PM 1014 Views
You should have quit before this. - 16/06/2011 03:46:01 PM 1095 Views
No, I shouldn't have. - 16/06/2011 04:03:21 PM 1050 Views
The problem with your list is that it's performance-oriented. - 16/06/2011 10:45:22 PM 986 Views
Of course it's performance-oriented. - 16/06/2011 10:54:22 PM 936 Views
This really made me laugh - 16/06/2011 04:26:32 PM 1012 Views
Re: I did start it, yes. - 16/06/2011 03:46:06 PM 917 Views
Yes, we do! - 16/06/2011 04:04:02 PM 1109 Views
Having now looked over the smileys - 16/06/2011 04:09:55 PM 1087 Views
See what I'm talking about? - 16/06/2011 07:09:10 PM 1007 Views
That may have been the worst pun ever! *NM* - 17/06/2011 12:47:50 AM 505 Views
I try *NM* - 17/06/2011 09:57:32 AM 505 Views
Take is up the ass or you are a prude? - 16/06/2011 04:09:54 PM 1225 Views
You didn't read the list very well. - 16/06/2011 07:08:19 PM 1051 Views
It appears I didn't read it very well. I apologize for that - 16/06/2011 10:16:02 PM 994 Views
No problems. - 16/06/2011 10:57:46 PM 938 Views
Re: The idea that If it hurts it's not being done right - Not neccessarily. - 17/06/2011 01:13:18 AM 1053 Views
It just requires more preparation. - 17/06/2011 04:49:52 AM 1407 Views
I have to say, I actually find this list reasonable. - 16/06/2011 04:35:40 PM 1020 Views
I agree - 16/06/2011 05:10:07 PM 932 Views
Exactly! It's the "nexus of activity" sort of idea. - 16/06/2011 07:18:33 PM 921 Views
If I weren't such a prude (3), I would post this list to facebook. - 16/06/2011 05:08:05 PM 1103 Views
In other words, you aren't a prude on that scale. - 16/06/2011 07:20:35 PM 947 Views
Eh - 16/06/2011 08:17:31 PM 1120 Views
You mixed up prudishness and sexual compatibility with you - 16/06/2011 05:21:31 PM 1129 Views
This. *NM* - 16/06/2011 06:18:41 PM 538 Views
No I didn't. - 16/06/2011 07:14:27 PM 1026 Views
Calling my response a knee jerk reaction is just silly, and in itself, a knee jerk response. - 16/06/2011 07:38:28 PM 1232 Views
Okay. I'm going to just stop replying. - 16/06/2011 08:28:02 PM 825 Views
Your world view is just too self referential to be - 16/06/2011 08:36:39 PM 1051 Views
As is yours. *NM* - 16/06/2011 08:44:10 PM 385 Views
That makes no sense. You have the narrower view. *NM* - 16/06/2011 09:07:37 PM 500 Views
So you say. *NM* - 16/06/2011 09:09:21 PM 488 Views
Question - 16/06/2011 07:42:37 PM 1030 Views
Ha Ha, who cares about the guy? It is only female sexuality that is on trial. - 16/06/2011 08:06:33 PM 959 Views
That is an incorrect assumption. - 16/06/2011 08:30:08 PM 992 Views
Awww you didn't take my bait! - 16/06/2011 08:44:16 PM 911 Views
There's very little I haven't been willing to do - 16/06/2011 08:52:31 PM 1027 Views
Hehehe, But *I* recall it! - 16/06/2011 09:22:40 PM 1055 Views
Wait, I think I know what you're talking about. - 16/06/2011 09:27:20 PM 1019 Views
Damn, I was going to guess "in a coffin". - 16/06/2011 09:31:36 PM 1219 Views
Seriously? - 16/06/2011 09:50:20 PM 1048 Views
The girl was never a girlfriend or a sexual partner. - 16/06/2011 11:06:38 PM 1058 Views
I'm reminded of an ex of mine - 16/06/2011 08:32:34 PM 835 Views
That's really awful. - 16/06/2011 09:16:33 PM 1116 Views
Of course. - 16/06/2011 08:29:11 PM 873 Views
Fair enough *NM* - 17/06/2011 07:20:38 PM 502 Views
THIS!! LISTEN!! the woman is * lightbulb* speaking from a woman's perspective. - 14/06/2011 02:52:26 AM 1132 Views
Your way out of line - 14/06/2011 02:55:46 AM 917 Views
Wondering why we're still single, are we? Try a minimum of politeness first. - 14/06/2011 03:21:15 AM 876 Views
What B/c i sank you YOUR level? Piss Off. AS if I give 2 shits what you think about me. - 16/06/2011 02:19:04 AM 1219 Views
I read this. - 16/06/2011 03:40:51 AM 1118 Views
The name-calling is uncalled for, Rebecca - 16/06/2011 11:10:04 AM 1067 Views
Given the vehemence of your response, you do care. - 16/06/2011 03:19:42 PM 1142 Views
I appreciate the support, - 14/06/2011 10:37:20 PM 1071 Views
Your journal entry is revealing. You sound bitter and hurt. I hope you find the healing you need. - 15/06/2011 01:40:23 AM 1089 Views
You know what? not called for. *NM* - 15/06/2011 02:05:14 PM 362 Views
Why not? - 15/06/2011 11:59:36 PM 991 Views
The first portion of what you said, isn't yours to say. - 16/06/2011 03:43:57 PM 801 Views
I'm with Anastasia on this. - 16/06/2011 06:39:56 PM 1140 Views
Re: It's funny - 14/06/2011 03:50:13 AM 1106 Views
Re: It's funny - 14/06/2011 10:28:32 PM 1174 Views
On a completely unrelated note - 14/06/2011 11:03:58 PM 1018 Views
Re: On a completely unrelated note - 14/06/2011 11:14:18 PM 1056 Views
Bummer *NM* - 14/06/2011 11:20:24 PM 488 Views
TMJ is right. - 15/06/2011 02:11:57 PM 1086 Views
Re: TMJ is right. - 16/06/2011 12:22:10 AM 1151 Views
Yes. - 16/06/2011 03:41:05 PM 954 Views
Re: Yes. - 17/06/2011 01:51:11 AM 901 Views
Gee thanks. - 17/06/2011 05:04:37 AM 1343 Views
Didn't suit you. - 18/06/2011 12:58:53 AM 1109 Views
On a totally unrelated note... - 15/06/2011 01:43:23 AM 1040 Views
Excuse me while I go hit something. A journalism major perhaps. *NM* - 12/06/2011 09:09:26 PM 492 Views
Stunning rebuttal!!! *NM* - 12/06/2011 10:07:39 PM 367 Views
Theres nothing there I really need to refute.... - 13/06/2011 01:20:43 AM 973 Views
Well, thanks for contributing nothing to the discussion. *NM* - 13/06/2011 04:41:56 AM 378 Views
Is there a reason you feel the need to jump up my ass? *NM* - 13/06/2011 05:16:53 AM 533 Views
Your winning personality? - 13/06/2011 03:45:09 PM 1055 Views
I'd say 'endearing' is the proper term. - 13/06/2011 10:43:01 PM 989 Views
Nice name new. - 15/06/2011 01:44:25 AM 1011 Views
Wow. Interesting. *NM* - 13/06/2011 07:04:08 AM 459 Views
Giving up porn (a male perspective) - 13/06/2011 04:29:52 PM 1115 Views
Thanks for sharing. ^_^ *NM* - 13/06/2011 09:05:51 PM 517 Views
Re: It's a sexy topic, but all these generalizations are becoming wet blankets. - 14/06/2011 02:13:31 AM 1101 Views
I think you are spot on with the seal theory. - 14/06/2011 05:16:59 PM 1155 Views
[something less snarky] - 14/06/2011 10:17:18 PM 1180 Views
Re: What? - 15/06/2011 12:01:36 AM 1139 Views
Re: What? - 15/06/2011 12:20:56 AM 1095 Views
Re: How come your 1st edit is not at all what was originally posted? - 15/06/2011 03:06:02 AM 1136 Views
About time to reevaluate Tom's claims, I think, eh? *NM* - 15/06/2011 03:59:31 AM 499 Views
my turn: what? - 15/06/2011 04:12:51 AM 1165 Views
Wow, well speaking as a prude... - 14/06/2011 03:36:23 AM 1129 Views
Funny how so many fault lines rupture in the comments to posts like this - 14/06/2011 04:23:23 AM 1225 Views
To quote Cat Valente: - 14/06/2011 04:37:39 AM 938 Views
It is a two-way street, unfortunately - 14/06/2011 04:40:58 AM 1059 Views
so the problem is southern women are just not good enough for you? - 14/06/2011 01:51:30 PM 1045 Views
No, more like not similar enough - 14/06/2011 04:13:52 PM 1066 Views
Some people aren't cut out to be in a relationship - 14/06/2011 04:25:09 PM 1082 Views
True - 14/06/2011 04:56:05 PM 911 Views
As someone who has never lived under the same roof more than five consecutive years - 14/06/2011 06:06:10 PM 1157 Views
Job. Always a job matter. - 14/06/2011 11:22:33 PM 1198 Views
Try south Texas, you may not notice you are not in South America - 15/06/2011 02:44:21 AM 999 Views
Ha! I used to live in the metro Miami area, so I know what you mean - 15/06/2011 03:20:41 AM 1055 Views
sweet jesus you are crazy - 15/06/2011 04:38:28 AM 896 Views
Maybe, but it certainly drains me of being involved much elsewhere - 15/06/2011 05:29:21 AM 1124 Views
Why all this vitriol? - 14/06/2011 05:19:47 AM 1026 Views
It started there here: - 14/06/2011 01:06:32 PM 1095 Views
Tom made an untenable comment - 14/06/2011 01:21:06 PM 1013 Views
Book clubs are scary places - 14/06/2011 05:03:03 PM 824 Views
Chocolate, wine, books. Also tea? - 14/06/2011 09:00:06 PM 1133 Views
Maybe without the wine? - 15/06/2011 05:06:53 AM 1015 Views
I don't feel particularly vitriolic. - 14/06/2011 10:18:44 PM 1025 Views
I didn't mean you... - 15/06/2011 05:24:56 AM 1027 Views
We haven't had one of these in a while! - 14/06/2011 06:36:18 AM 1092 Views
Agreed. I laughed, I cried, it was touching. *NM* - 14/06/2011 08:49:40 AM 366 Views
This post got more abused than a nasty Japanese bukkake! Lol. *NM* - 15/06/2011 10:07:04 AM 558 Views
I started to read this but got bored and looked at porn. - 14/06/2011 03:15:28 PM 1083 Views
Re: I started to read this but got bored and looked at porn. - 14/06/2011 03:27:51 PM 1163 Views
Oh yeah. - 14/06/2011 03:31:42 PM 1181 Views
- 14/06/2011 08:48:55 PM 1114 Views
I think I've read pretty much all of it. I think it's better than porn. Well, bad porn. - 14/06/2011 11:01:20 PM 1089 Views
that was funny *NM* - 15/06/2011 02:42:13 AM 375 Views
Bad porn is the worst! - 15/06/2011 02:13:59 PM 950 Views
You know what Tom, it occurs to me that this is very American thinking. - 15/06/2011 03:07:00 AM 1012 Views
Actually, my Russian guy friends tend to be more vehement than I am on this point. - 15/06/2011 05:12:51 AM 1348 Views
Huh, could it be because most Russians are atheist? - 15/06/2011 05:36:47 AM 1124 Views
That could be a major part of it - 16/06/2011 09:06:21 PM 980 Views
Ah, you've seen EuroTrip, too. *NM* - 17/06/2011 01:52:27 AM 486 Views

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