Well, some legal systems think using dirty tricks undermines the integrity of the justice system.
Tim Send a noteboard - 06/08/2011 03:35:50 PM
That would make undercover work a lot hard to pull off don't you think? In fact the courts have ruled that the cops can lie to you in order to get a confession. I don't understand why you can see this is a much better solution than wasting man hours and endangering police officers trying to serve these warrants. If they were tricked into committing a crime you might have a point but these are men with outstanding warrants for their arrest.
Apparently Alabama's is not one of them.
I must confess I don't know much about undercover work and what (if any) special authorisations/checks and balances it requires, but I would have thought it would only be used where necessary. The use of undercover police is obviously more justified when you're trying to infiltrate a terrorist cell or a mafia than in a case like this.
I realise they are men with outstanding warrants for their arrest, and that's precisely why I don't understand why they didn't just go round to their house. If there was good reason to believe the officers would be in danger (e.g. they went round once before and had a shotgun pointed in their face) then fair enough to use a trick.
About your comment that "the world isn't fair": of course it isn't, but the whole point of having a legal system is to make it fair as much as possible. That's why it's called "justice". You might as well try to defend yourself in court against a burglary charge by saying "Yeah I broke into his house and stole his TV, but so what? Life isn't fair. Quit being such a crybaby."
Vigilantibus non dormientibus jura subveniunt.
—Nous disons en allemand : le guerre, le mort, le lune, alors que 'soleil' et 'amour' sont du sexe féminin : la soleil, la amour. La vie est neutre.
—La vie ? Neutre ? C'est très joli, et surtout très logique.
—Nous disons en allemand : le guerre, le mort, le lune, alors que 'soleil' et 'amour' sont du sexe féminin : la soleil, la amour. La vie est neutre.
—La vie ? Neutre ? C'est très joli, et surtout très logique.
This message last edited by Tim on 06/08/2011 at 03:39:01 PM
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Wouldn't deception make the arrest unlawful?
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Sorry there is nothing the says cops can't lie to you and by the way the world isn't fair
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Well, some legal systems think using dirty tricks undermines the integrity of the justice system.
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what you're assuming they'd just walk up and answer the door if an officer was there?
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Haven't you ever watched tv shows or movies?
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I'm pretty sure fictional programmes and films aren't the best way to learn the law
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Unfortunately cop shows rarely show the trial where the coerced confession is ruled inadmissible . *NM*
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