Roughly; are you going to pretend that 2010 was as good a year for Dems as 2008?
Joel Send a noteboard - 15/08/2011 05:34:32 AM
Maybe Texas isn't as far right as some on the far left would have us believe. Most pollster rate Texas as "leans Republican". Not sure where you are getting your numbers for wide spread republican support of White but since they are almost the exact same number Obama received I would suspect they are BS. By the way as stunning as the poll numbers you posted are they really look about the same as Pawlenty's numbers so I guess Americans must hate that Minnesota swagger as well. Or that is just the numbers you would expect to get from little known candidates in August before the primaries have even started. As for the poll showing Obama beating Perry in Texas wasn't that the PPP doing that polling? They don't even claim to be unbiased.
I've yet to see anyone from either Fox or "the liberal media" (i.e. everyone else) portray 2010 as anything but a major drubbing for Dems, and only the latter has claimed 2008 as anything but a mandate Obama failed to use. The main place I'm getting my numbers on widespread Republican support for White (and it wasn't support for White, it was opposition to Perry) is all the life long die hard Texas Republicans I spoke with who said they were voting for him because they wanted rid of Perry, all the White signs I saw in the yards of very Republican Williamson County. You must have had some aversion to your incumbent two term Governor if you voted for his opponent in the primary; a lot of your fellow Republicans weren't willing to vote the party line for someone they can't stand. For what it's worth, I believe that was a PPP poll showing Obama leading Perry in TX, and I do recognize they are essentially a Democratic polling firm, so no, I don't take it at face value, but unless they're outright cooking the books the fact that Obama led Perry in ANY TX poll should be cause for concern.
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Tim Pawlenty drops out of the race 
- 14/08/2011 07:20:58 PM
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- 14/08/2011 07:20:58 PM
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Bummer, I liked him. *NM*
- 14/08/2011 07:23:42 PM
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Yeah, him and Cain are the only ones I actually liked to hear talk
- 14/08/2011 07:38:08 PM
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Grumpy and just nuts enough to be entertaining, from what I've heard...
- 14/08/2011 08:15:15 PM
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Probably better to say he's not polished
- 14/08/2011 08:46:37 PM
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Yeah, as Aisha says, it's the Islam issue he sounded the craziest on...
- 14/08/2011 11:16:20 PM
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Re: Yeah, as Aisha says, it's the Islam issue he sounded the craziest on...
- 15/08/2011 12:02:22 AM
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well I don't think his posistion on Israel will play much of a factor one way or the other
- 15/08/2011 02:07:55 AM
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I've never really gotten to know him... which kind of says enough.
- 14/08/2011 07:35:40 PM
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I think Michelle Bachman and Herman Cain are awesome. You should consider them *NM*
- 14/08/2011 09:25:55 PM
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About fucking time. Now if we could just get Santorum to drop, too.
- 14/08/2011 09:28:53 PM
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He'd indicated he would
- 14/08/2011 11:47:03 PM
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Oh, I don't think Bachmann WILL be kingmaker, but that's her goal.
- 15/08/2011 02:39:51 PM
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bachman is gonna be the vice presidential nominee for either Perry or Romney
- 15/08/2011 04:22:33 AM
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funny that I only see liberals making an issue of his religion *NM*
- 15/08/2011 05:13:03 AM
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It's a clumsy attempt to poison the well
- 15/08/2011 05:59:26 AM
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Re: It's a clumsy attempt to poison the well
- 15/08/2011 07:13:01 AM
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Dems used to chase the evangelical vote, and the Church never should've permitted a political coup.
- 15/08/2011 09:22:53 AM
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For the record, I'm not trying to poison any wells.
- 15/08/2011 09:54:53 AM
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I think the deal with Huckabee
- 15/08/2011 07:21:08 PM
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Huckabee didn't hide his beliefs, but also made clear he wouldn't try to legislate them.
- 16/08/2011 12:58:48 PM
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yeah i guess it was s liberal Fox reporter/talking head/whatever the Eff they are called
- 15/08/2011 07:07:07 AM
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I'm not sure why she had to apologize for saying that.
- 15/08/2011 09:56:39 AM
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because its not true? Mormons ARE Christians arent they?
- 15/08/2011 04:52:32 PM
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Except their founder taught, and his church teaches, that man is his own savior.
- 15/08/2011 05:54:28 PM
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well ok then, i didnt know all that
- 15/08/2011 06:58:22 PM
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Precisely; every Mormon you ever meet will ALWAYS insist they're Christian.
- 16/08/2011 01:57:06 PM
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So nutcase liberals and one woman on Fox News and she had the decency to apologize *NM*
- 15/08/2011 02:04:44 PM
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I find that highly unlikely.
- 15/08/2011 02:47:35 PM
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I personally am considering voting for Romney , but I wouldnt underestimate Bachman and her power
- 15/08/2011 04:58:19 PM
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Also, it is very likely that Palin will not enter.....
- 14/08/2011 09:58:48 PM
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besides the fact that they both have west Texas accents what similarites?
- 15/08/2011 01:59:45 AM
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By the way, why did Kay B Hutch run against him in the primary election?
- 15/08/2011 03:43:52 AM
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Some did want to dump him, over the toll roads and mandatory HPV vaccines for school girls.
- 15/08/2011 03:58:38 AM
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you call losing by 15 points competing? *NM*
- 15/08/2011 04:07:08 AM
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It was 12.9%, which is pretty good for a Dem in a very red state during a very red year.
- 15/08/2011 04:26:58 AM
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Isn't that almost the exact same numbers Obama lost by in Texas?
- 15/08/2011 05:02:57 AM
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Roughly; are you going to pretend that 2010 was as good a year for Dems as 2008?
- 15/08/2011 05:34:32 AM
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there was a perception that he was vulnerable
- 15/08/2011 04:48:41 AM
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He was vulnerable, he only won in 06 with 39 percent of the vote *NM*
- 15/08/2011 01:14:43 PM
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I have to agree with the take that it's symptomatic of a larger problem.
- 14/08/2011 10:23:02 PM
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There's no "victory laurel" there. The Iowa straw poll is as irrelevant as lint in one's navel.
- 14/08/2011 11:13:36 PM
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Largely true; it matters to people like Bachmann who need credibility, but to few others.
- 15/08/2011 12:20:48 AM
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unnamed sources from left leaning news source? who could question that *NM*
- 15/08/2011 01:25:07 AM
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Just because you don't like the quote doesn't make the person citing it "left leaning".
- 15/08/2011 02:00:15 AM
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It was a quote from Politico which is a left leaning news blog and the sources were unnamed
- 15/08/2011 02:14:09 AM
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If you say so.
- 15/08/2011 03:53:08 AM
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so you are going to just ignore the fact that your entire argument is based on unnamed sources?
- 15/08/2011 05:12:01 AM
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I'm not surprised no Republican wants to go on the record with that.
- 15/08/2011 05:51:47 AM
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I'm kinda curious how this thread got controversial
- 15/08/2011 06:26:15 AM
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Probably because I opined my impression that most of the viable GOP field looks pretty unimpressive.
- 15/08/2011 09:11:45 AM
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I look at politics like I look at sports and call races on what I believe will happen
- 15/08/2011 02:47:35 PM
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Normally I'd say that's the best approach, but in US politics all teams play for the same owner.
- 15/08/2011 04:04:43 PM
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I am trying to keep it to just the facts and my opinion of the race
- 15/08/2011 02:49:47 PM
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Are we surprised by this?
- 15/08/2011 07:05:59 PM
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