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Oh yes, that part I'm not disputing snoopcester Send a noteboard - 22/08/2011 10:18:03 AM
They also are probably the only reason that Mugabe is still in power in Zimbabwe. The nation has become a reprehensible wreck of a country and a mockery of democratic principles.


I was just offering an update on the rumour they'd sent a plane.

The SA government is a pretty good argument for why democracy shouldn't be an end goal in itself and that countries also need a culture change to go with it.
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Libyan rebels are now in Tripoli. Rebekah - 21/08/2011 10:06:43 PM 841 Views
I guess now is when we find out how much he was bluffing... Legolas - 21/08/2011 10:09:01 PM 573 Views
Indeed. I'm rather nervous about it. Rebekah - 21/08/2011 10:10:00 PM 599 Views
Yeah, even if he goes quietly, things might still turn ugly between the rebel factions... Legolas - 21/08/2011 10:20:53 PM 491 Views
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Since the leader of the NTC is worried about it, Rebekah - 22/08/2011 02:13:42 PM 583 Views
And Gaddafi's presidential guard has surrendered as well. *NM* Rebekah - 21/08/2011 10:09:02 PM 241 Views
It is looking positive at the moment snoopcester - 21/08/2011 10:26:43 PM 484 Views
Now let the rebel civil war begin. *NM* Wibble - 21/08/2011 10:52:56 PM 258 Views
I'm following on Al Jazeera. Great Lord of Chaos - 21/08/2011 10:57:31 PM 720 Views
I've followed it on twitter despite my hatred of the service generally. Tom - 21/08/2011 11:37:32 PM 573 Views
Re: I've followed it on twitter despite my hatred of the service generally. snoopcester - 22/08/2011 12:20:09 AM 607 Views
Even if there aren't any planes, South Africa supported Gaddafi as of this morning. Tom - 22/08/2011 01:16:36 AM 509 Views
Oh yes, that part I'm not disputing snoopcester - 22/08/2011 10:18:03 AM 488 Views
Will NATO now do the same for Syrians? Or is that "different"? *NM* everynametaken - 21/08/2011 11:47:27 PM 219 Views
I don't think so... Great Lord of Chaos - 21/08/2011 11:49:30 PM 549 Views
NATO won't take military action against Syria without the support of the full UN Security Council Lews_TherinThelamon - 22/08/2011 12:24:09 AM 537 Views
What LTT said, plus I don't think we have a clear enough idea of just who all of the... Vodalus - 23/08/2011 05:37:31 AM 611 Views
Glad to see he's gone. Dragonsoul - 22/08/2011 01:04:14 AM 624 Views
Yeah, been reading whatever I can find. nossy - 22/08/2011 03:58:58 AM 533 Views
Things that irritate me about reading twitter and watching CNN Tom - 22/08/2011 04:13:58 AM 592 Views
I've noticed #2 a lot as well. Great Lord of Chaos - 22/08/2011 04:59:15 AM 507 Views
That's why I've avoided Twitter the last few days. Stephen - 22/08/2011 01:39:47 PM 591 Views
Both sons have now 'escaped' Wibble - 23/08/2011 02:01:29 AM 487 Views
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