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Re: I can comment on this one.... Dreaded Anomaly Send a noteboard - 30/08/2011 03:54:07 AM
If parents want to home school their children or send them to some private school to ensure their disconnection from reality, they can do that. I'm talking about the responsibilities of public education, which must be informed by facts and evidence, and how those shed light upon what is and isn't a public good.


First off, its not good to start a post by insulting people. You automatically assume that either home or private school ensures that students become disconnected from reality. That is a bit of an insult, because you're assuming that it is always the case. There are always expections.


No, that's not what I said. My position is that public schools should be required to teach fact-based sex ed. There are alternatives to public school if parents do not want their children to have the facts. My statement was conditional and limited. If the anti-sex ed parents choose to home school their children, then disconnection from reality is likely. The case will be similar if they choose some private school that fits their agenda, not any private school at all.

Secondly, and this goes back to my original post, for *this topic* facts and evidence is not enough. I do not want the education of this topic to be cold hard facts & logic. Why? Because sex is more then that. For me (and eventually my kids), it holds more then insert this there.

I want there to be more of an education about everything regarding sex...not just the cold hard facts behind it. I do not want it to be viewed as trivial and nothing different from long division and the French Revolution.

I'm sorry that you can't see this.

~Jeordam


I'm really not sure what your point is here. This does not seem relevant to the topic at hand.
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I simple "no I can't defend it" would have worked *NM* random thoughts - 29/08/2011 02:00:11 PM 449 Views
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What if you're one of those unfortunate souls who will never be a middle manager? No sex for you! *NM* Aeryn - 26/08/2011 04:24:36 PM 385 Views
Maybe you should stop voting for the people who oppose birth control and sex ed, then. *NM* Dreaded Anomaly - 25/08/2011 06:10:15 AM 312 Views
Is it so much opposition to... Jeordam - 25/08/2011 09:18:12 PM 798 Views
It's opposition to birth control and sex ed. Dreaded Anomaly - 26/08/2011 01:06:38 AM 709 Views
now that is true liberal thinking random thoughts - 26/08/2011 05:24:02 PM 803 Views
No joke. This thought process kind of puts me on edge. *NM* Jeordam - 26/08/2011 05:47:15 PM 400 Views
Neither you nor Jeordam has justified that position. Dreaded Anomaly - 28/08/2011 12:05:51 AM 729 Views
wow you go deeper and deeper into the the land of far left crazy random thoughts - 28/08/2011 03:31:45 PM 790 Views
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I will take this as a concession since it contains nothing even close to legitimate objection. *NM* Dreaded Anomaly - 29/08/2011 05:18:14 PM 316 Views
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I can comment on this one.... Jeordam - 29/08/2011 11:51:40 PM 843 Views
Re: I can comment on this one.... Dreaded Anomaly - 30/08/2011 03:54:07 AM 725 Views
who opposes birth control? *NM* random thoughts - 25/08/2011 09:37:04 PM 415 Views
Many religous groups such as Catholics, it is cultural as well *NM* Roland00 - 25/08/2011 10:01:39 PM 356 Views
From the context from this sub-thread, maybe the question was regarding specific politicians? *NM* Jeordam - 25/08/2011 11:21:32 PM 374 Views
I don't believe we have a chatloiuc party or any anti-birth control party *NM* random thoughts - 26/08/2011 05:15:56 PM 390 Views
The Republican party and social conservatives in general. Dreaded Anomaly - 26/08/2011 12:52:32 AM 805 Views
so your answer is left wing talking points and damn reality? random thoughts - 26/08/2011 05:14:58 PM 783 Views
Reality leans left. Dreaded Anomaly - 27/08/2011 11:56:00 PM 790 Views
you talking about reality is funny but it doesn't support your argument in the slighetest random thoughts - 28/08/2011 03:37:42 PM 666 Views
They blatantly lied about the effectiveness of birth control. Dreaded Anomaly - 29/08/2011 04:14:17 AM 671 Views
Can you show me where Bush said that? random thoughts - 29/08/2011 02:03:53 PM 754 Views
No, I have most of the groups that taught abstinence-only. Dreaded Anomaly - 29/08/2011 05:17:39 PM 779 Views
the little bit of slanted reality form a Waxman staffer? random thoughts - 29/08/2011 05:43:42 PM 794 Views
Talk about believing what you want to believe. Dreaded Anomaly - 30/08/2011 03:38:49 AM 692 Views
Funny..... Jeordam - 26/08/2011 05:54:38 PM 784 Views
Re: Funny..... Dreaded Anomaly - 28/08/2011 12:15:25 AM 699 Views
I'll just comment on this one thought... Jeordam - 29/08/2011 11:58:08 PM 825 Views
The state does if the parent places their children in public education. Dreaded Anomaly - 30/08/2011 03:58:29 AM 813 Views
The number of ridiculous stereotypes in your first paragraph are off the hook. Are you joking? everynametaken - 24/08/2011 02:53:13 AM 626 Views
Ridiculous stereotypes? Dark Knight - 24/08/2011 03:03:52 AM 820 Views
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The truth sometimes sucks, but it is the truth nonetheless..... *NM* trzaska2000 - 24/08/2011 02:53:49 PM 366 Views
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Does this work? Roland00 - 24/08/2011 04:21:47 AM 642 Views
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Crap presentation of an important issue. Vodalus - 26/08/2011 05:32:46 AM 901 Views
no one thinks a family of four can live on that random thoughts - 26/08/2011 05:28:49 PM 673 Views
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