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Re: Europe Nate Send a noteboard - 30/08/2011 09:32:17 PM
2. Vienna, Austria

Vienna of all places? Hmm okay, I haven't been there, but sounds a bit random, Euro-crisis or not.

Oh yeah and in Helsinki everyone's depressed, did they think of that?


I don't know enough about European cities to say why they might have ranked them outside of the top ten. The scores for the top ten were all pretty close though, so there could be plenty of cities outside of the top ten that score quite high as well. Unfortunately they want you to pay to see the whole list.

Because I love lists, here is a list from Monocle magazine's 2010 World's Most Livable Cities index, which appears to be much more inclined to like Europe. It aims to rank by quality of life, and some things that it takes into account that aren't specifically mentioned by the Economist ranking are quality of architecture, international connectivity, tolerance, and access to nature.

1. Munich, Germany
2. Copenhagen, Denmark
3. Zurich, Switzerland
4. Tokyo, Japan
5. Helsinki, Finland
6. Stockholm, Sweden
7. Paris, France
8. Vienna, Austria
9. Melbourne, Australia
10. Madrid, Spain
11. Berlin, Germany
12. Sydney, Australia
13. Honolulu, United States
14. Fukuoka, Japan
15. Geneva, Switzerland
16. Vancouver, Canada
17. Barcelona, Spain
18. Oslo, Norway
19. Montreal, Canada
20. Auckland, New Zealand
21. Singapore, Singapore
22. Portland, United States
23. Kyoto, Japan
24. Hamburg, Germany
25. Lisbon, Portugal
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The world's top ten and worst ten most livable cities Nate - 30/08/2011 07:06:50 PM 1403 Views
How do you call towns "cities"? Tom - 30/08/2011 08:12:27 PM 673 Views
I thought you were going to mention Perth. The rest are clearly cities, if you ask me. Legolas - 30/08/2011 08:23:33 PM 659 Views
Perth has 1.7 million people. Nate - 30/08/2011 08:30:26 PM 818 Views
You kind of inadvertently prove the point... Legolas - 30/08/2011 09:21:18 PM 881 Views
So I see! Nate - 30/08/2011 09:45:27 PM 911 Views
A million people isn't a city? Nate - 30/08/2011 08:28:20 PM 821 Views
Not necessarily. Tom - 30/08/2011 10:49:08 PM 787 Views
You could be right re: population density. Nate - 30/08/2011 11:06:36 PM 733 Views
Re: Not necessarily. Zaphod - 30/08/2011 11:56:20 PM 798 Views
He's spoilt by living in New York Stephen - 31/08/2011 01:26:02 AM 875 Views
That probably is part of it. Tom - 31/08/2011 02:14:41 AM 672 Views
to meet their definition of best it also seems to help if you have mostly white random thoughts - 31/08/2011 01:52:11 PM 679 Views
Have you been to Toronto or Vancouver ? wheelwright - 31/08/2011 04:02:01 PM 690 Views
no but I have the internet and they meet the ethnic description I gave random thoughts - 31/08/2011 05:25:40 PM 796 Views
Yeah, I'm sorry, but you're fairly off with that one. Nate - 31/08/2011 04:52:25 PM 746 Views
OK you did see where I included Asians didn't you and I would call less than 2% significant random thoughts - 31/08/2011 05:31:45 PM 741 Views
I believe your words ... Nate - 31/08/2011 05:49:26 PM 723 Views
yeah sprinkling was probably an understatement random thoughts - 31/08/2011 07:36:16 PM 936 Views
As a comparison ... Nate - 30/08/2011 08:37:28 PM 846 Views
that can be a little misleading random thoughts - 30/08/2011 09:18:22 PM 781 Views
Point taken. Nate - 30/08/2011 09:49:54 PM 864 Views
Not enough Europe, apparently ironclad - 30/08/2011 08:13:48 PM 745 Views
Re: Europe Nate - 30/08/2011 09:32:17 PM 770 Views
Interesting ironclad - 30/08/2011 09:59:27 PM 906 Views
but everything tries to kill you in Oz Yunalesca - 30/08/2011 08:41:51 PM 701 Views
That's what keeps you fit and healthy. *NM* Nate - 30/08/2011 09:17:32 PM 375 Views
weather is a factor and three Canadian cities made the top ten? random thoughts - 30/08/2011 09:22:32 PM 814 Views
Vancouver at least has a nice climate. Nate - 30/08/2011 09:40:31 PM 939 Views
yeah there are not vey many US cities I would want to raise kids in random thoughts - 30/08/2011 11:16:52 PM 650 Views
For the record, I found Vancouver quite lovely. Joel - 31/08/2011 05:09:37 PM 887 Views
Quality health care in the US, really? Macharius - 31/08/2011 12:27:41 AM 765 Views
seriously... LadyLorraine - 31/08/2011 05:24:47 AM 716 Views
all you are arguing is quality=free random thoughts - 31/08/2011 12:11:30 PM 721 Views
Also, Aeryn - 31/08/2011 12:53:00 PM 794 Views
no it works out that nicely for most people random thoughts - 31/08/2011 01:36:13 PM 747 Views
How can he afford a week in Vail and not afford insurance? nossy - 31/08/2011 04:22:47 PM 752 Views
a lot of the uninsured are that way from choice random thoughts - 31/08/2011 06:41:42 PM 675 Views
Getting care, getting timely care, getting quality care and paying for it are all different things. Joel - 31/08/2011 03:39:30 PM 912 Views
tha tis becuase the hospital is run by republicans and they were out to get you *NM* random thoughts - 31/08/2011 07:37:47 PM 516 Views
Nothing in Travis County is run by Republicans. Joel - 31/08/2011 07:46:42 PM 763 Views
Livability obviously doesn't include "Concentration of Venomous Creatures". *NM* TaskmasterJack - 30/08/2011 11:43:43 PM 386 Views
or perhaps Australian cities rank so high because they're so much better than the alternative Zaphod - 30/08/2011 11:58:47 PM 832 Views
Actually, the reason our cities are so liveable is because they're built to keep said creatures out Colonel Logain - 31/08/2011 12:59:01 AM 664 Views
How? ironclad - 31/08/2011 08:20:01 AM 653 Views
I can't risk putting the answer on a public forum, the venomous creatures may find out Colonel Logain - 01/09/2011 07:26:52 AM 594 Views
Why no Boston? *NM* Ghavrel - 31/08/2011 12:16:28 AM 370 Views
Annoyingness of local sports fans was also taken into consideration. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 31/08/2011 12:31:21 AM 473 Views
Obviously the study group consists of Yankees fans. Poor, unfortunate souls. *NM* Ghavrel - 31/08/2011 12:46:17 AM 349 Views
A low population density seems to be a key determinant in these rankings Colonel Logain - 31/08/2011 12:51:45 AM 635 Views
There is an obvious mistake Druid - 31/08/2011 03:07:31 AM 975 Views
I was almost killed by a wombat LadyLorraine - 31/08/2011 05:26:28 AM 627 Views
you should print that on a tee shirt and sell it random thoughts - 31/08/2011 09:11:18 PM 650 Views
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