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So I see! Nate Send a noteboard - 30/08/2011 09:45:27 PM
If you got that 1.7 million people stat from Wikipedia, do look at numbers below it: population density 308 per square km, total surface: over 5000 square kilometer. Those are country numbers, not city numbers (Belgium as a whole has a higher population density than that, the Netherlands has nearly half again that). In other words: Perth has 1.7 million people because the definition of "Perth" is essentially "every populated place in Western Australia that isn't hundreds of kilometers away from the city centre".

For comparison's sake, if you take that kind of surface around Helsinki, you'd get close to the surface of the entire region of Uusimaa (I love Wikipedia), which has close to 1.5 million people in it.

But those are just quibbles that don't detract from you being right on the main point, clearly I did underestimate Perth's size.


I didn't notice the area they were taking into account. That's a decent chunk of land. I wonder what the population within the city limits is. A quick Google scan didn't turn up anything.
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The world's top ten and worst ten most livable cities Nate - 30/08/2011 07:06:50 PM 1482 Views
How do you call towns "cities"? Tom - 30/08/2011 08:12:27 PM 758 Views
I thought you were going to mention Perth. The rest are clearly cities, if you ask me. Legolas - 30/08/2011 08:23:33 PM 719 Views
Perth has 1.7 million people. Nate - 30/08/2011 08:30:26 PM 878 Views
You kind of inadvertently prove the point... Legolas - 30/08/2011 09:21:18 PM 957 Views
So I see! Nate - 30/08/2011 09:45:27 PM 974 Views
A million people isn't a city? Nate - 30/08/2011 08:28:20 PM 885 Views
Not necessarily. Tom - 30/08/2011 10:49:08 PM 854 Views
You could be right re: population density. Nate - 30/08/2011 11:06:36 PM 792 Views
Re: Not necessarily. Zaphod - 30/08/2011 11:56:20 PM 863 Views
He's spoilt by living in New York Stephen - 31/08/2011 01:26:02 AM 931 Views
That probably is part of it. Tom - 31/08/2011 02:14:41 AM 740 Views
to meet their definition of best it also seems to help if you have mostly white random thoughts - 31/08/2011 01:52:11 PM 748 Views
Have you been to Toronto or Vancouver ? wheelwright - 31/08/2011 04:02:01 PM 761 Views
no but I have the internet and they meet the ethnic description I gave random thoughts - 31/08/2011 05:25:40 PM 856 Views
Yeah, I'm sorry, but you're fairly off with that one. Nate - 31/08/2011 04:52:25 PM 809 Views
OK you did see where I included Asians didn't you and I would call less than 2% significant random thoughts - 31/08/2011 05:31:45 PM 802 Views
I believe your words ... Nate - 31/08/2011 05:49:26 PM 788 Views
yeah sprinkling was probably an understatement random thoughts - 31/08/2011 07:36:16 PM 1009 Views
As a comparison ... Nate - 30/08/2011 08:37:28 PM 918 Views
that can be a little misleading random thoughts - 30/08/2011 09:18:22 PM 849 Views
Point taken. Nate - 30/08/2011 09:49:54 PM 932 Views
Not enough Europe, apparently ironclad - 30/08/2011 08:13:48 PM 806 Views
Re: Europe Nate - 30/08/2011 09:32:17 PM 833 Views
Interesting ironclad - 30/08/2011 09:59:27 PM 969 Views
but everything tries to kill you in Oz Yunalesca - 30/08/2011 08:41:51 PM 761 Views
That's what keeps you fit and healthy. *NM* Nate - 30/08/2011 09:17:32 PM 402 Views
weather is a factor and three Canadian cities made the top ten? random thoughts - 30/08/2011 09:22:32 PM 891 Views
Vancouver at least has a nice climate. Nate - 30/08/2011 09:40:31 PM 1003 Views
yeah there are not vey many US cities I would want to raise kids in random thoughts - 30/08/2011 11:16:52 PM 712 Views
For the record, I found Vancouver quite lovely. Joel - 31/08/2011 05:09:37 PM 957 Views
Quality health care in the US, really? Macharius - 31/08/2011 12:27:41 AM 841 Views
seriously... LadyLorraine - 31/08/2011 05:24:47 AM 774 Views
all you are arguing is quality=free random thoughts - 31/08/2011 12:11:30 PM 785 Views
Also, Aeryn - 31/08/2011 12:53:00 PM 849 Views
no it works out that nicely for most people random thoughts - 31/08/2011 01:36:13 PM 820 Views
How can he afford a week in Vail and not afford insurance? nossy - 31/08/2011 04:22:47 PM 819 Views
a lot of the uninsured are that way from choice random thoughts - 31/08/2011 06:41:42 PM 738 Views
Getting care, getting timely care, getting quality care and paying for it are all different things. Joel - 31/08/2011 03:39:30 PM 988 Views
tha tis becuase the hospital is run by republicans and they were out to get you *NM* random thoughts - 31/08/2011 07:37:47 PM 545 Views
Nothing in Travis County is run by Republicans. Joel - 31/08/2011 07:46:42 PM 831 Views
Livability obviously doesn't include "Concentration of Venomous Creatures". *NM* TaskmasterJack - 30/08/2011 11:43:43 PM 414 Views
or perhaps Australian cities rank so high because they're so much better than the alternative Zaphod - 30/08/2011 11:58:47 PM 901 Views
Actually, the reason our cities are so liveable is because they're built to keep said creatures out Colonel Logain - 31/08/2011 12:59:01 AM 728 Views
How? ironclad - 31/08/2011 08:20:01 AM 718 Views
I can't risk putting the answer on a public forum, the venomous creatures may find out Colonel Logain - 01/09/2011 07:26:52 AM 662 Views
Why no Boston? *NM* Ghavrel - 31/08/2011 12:16:28 AM 398 Views
Annoyingness of local sports fans was also taken into consideration. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 31/08/2011 12:31:21 AM 504 Views
Obviously the study group consists of Yankees fans. Poor, unfortunate souls. *NM* Ghavrel - 31/08/2011 12:46:17 AM 382 Views
A low population density seems to be a key determinant in these rankings Colonel Logain - 31/08/2011 12:51:45 AM 702 Views
There is an obvious mistake Druid - 31/08/2011 03:07:31 AM 1036 Views
I was almost killed by a wombat LadyLorraine - 31/08/2011 05:26:28 AM 688 Views
you should print that on a tee shirt and sell it random thoughts - 31/08/2011 09:11:18 PM 716 Views
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