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I never even knew we had a National Christmas Tree Association, but this is dumb Isaac Send a noteboard - 10/11/2011 09:08:43 PM
We don't need to tax Christmas trees, they can pool their cash and run ads on their own. Also, on the dark side, this is a tax on a specific item related to a religious celebration, I'm a touch leery of that, you don't tax Easter Candy Chocolate Eggs you tax candy or chocolate or sugar. You tax candles not specifically Votive or Hanukkah candles... I'm not sure what the wording is on the tax so they may have done it right or wrong but it is something one needs to be cautious about. I also doubt the NCTA has a monopoly on growing Christmas trees and odds are they want the tax on everyone if they're pushing for it because they don't want to collect the cash themselves while non-members don't pay but reap the rewards, or maybe they want to compete better against artificial trees and want a gov't stamp of approval while talking about how much greener it is. Either way, I don't believe such a tax is 'evil' or 'anti-Christmas' but it is a good example of things the gov't doesn't need to be getting involved with. At least with subsidies of, for instance, dairy, a case can be made... and for a rare change I'll skip making it for the sake of brevity... that cows represent an effective calorie vault for drought and emergency, several hundreds pounds of beef plus the ~10,000+ pounds of silage they'd consume in a year versus a considerably smaller calorie output, available during a real mega-crisis like a volcano eruption destroying the year's grain production. I'm not fond of agricultural subsidies or energy subsidies but the case for them is fairly decent, and thus a case for government involvement, food and fuel are very much an area of legitimate government interest... Christmas trees really are not.
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So, accidentally just got in a facebook argument with an opinionated person. - 10/11/2011 02:00:37 PM 967 Views
I don't understand the point of advertising Christmas trees, and I'm suprised the objection isn't - 10/11/2011 02:13:49 PM 605 Views
Christmas tree farmers seem to think they need help. - 10/11/2011 02:41:41 PM 565 Views
I get that, it's just surprising to me. - 10/11/2011 02:52:18 PM 564 Views
Yeah. - 10/11/2011 03:06:53 PM 419 Views
Why are we supporting an industry that does nothing but chop down healthy trees to throw them away? - 10/11/2011 02:30:10 PM 603 Views
Well, for the most part that is the reason they were planted in the first place. - 10/11/2011 02:34:09 PM 502 Views
this is what people always say - 10/11/2011 02:43:45 PM 574 Views
Hahahaha - 10/11/2011 02:56:17 PM 561 Views
lol - 10/11/2011 03:20:32 PM 521 Views
Once again, a needless industry. *NM* - 10/11/2011 04:12:21 PM 223 Views
That is only half of what they do. - 10/11/2011 02:37:49 PM 627 Views
Was this response directed at me? - 10/11/2011 04:11:01 PM 498 Views
You know it was. - 10/11/2011 04:24:27 PM 443 Views
These are trees that are planted specifically for that purpose... and then replacements are planted. - 10/11/2011 02:42:04 PM 488 Views
That is the very definition of needless consumerist waste. - 10/11/2011 04:07:34 PM 517 Views
Shrug, may as well say the same thing about annual flowers - 10/11/2011 04:14:51 PM 513 Views
Not really. - 10/11/2011 06:06:44 PM 496 Views
Heh. - 10/11/2011 04:27:25 PM 538 Views
*NM* - 10/11/2011 04:31:36 PM 215 Views
In an ideal world, yes. - 10/11/2011 06:12:29 PM 516 Views
Re: That is the very definition of needless consumerist waste. - 10/11/2011 05:17:06 PM 573 Views
You really are an idiot. *NM* - 10/11/2011 06:14:12 PM 219 Views
And you are a nice, thoughtful person. - 10/11/2011 06:23:45 PM 431 Views
Yes, making up things. Like thinking every skanky waitress has the hots for you. - 11/11/2011 12:17:02 AM 441 Views
Aww, you do care. - 19/11/2011 05:51:06 AM 603 Views
I dunno - what are the relative environmental impacts? - 10/11/2011 04:39:54 PM 550 Views
I haven't crunched numbers but I was thinking about the same thing. - 10/11/2011 10:18:26 PM 640 Views
There's no reason trees can't still be grown and harvested. - 11/11/2011 12:15:28 AM 450 Views
Nossy - 10/11/2011 02:48:36 PM 564 Views
It was an accident. - 10/11/2011 02:50:19 PM 510 Views
You though the internet was reasonable *NM* - 10/11/2011 03:21:05 PM 211 Views
To be fair, she was very gracious about it. We agreed to disagree. *NM* - 10/11/2011 03:23:42 PM 222 Views
Damn it - 10/11/2011 03:35:06 PM 442 Views
Also - 10/11/2011 02:57:40 PM 572 Views
Em? - 10/11/2011 03:08:19 PM 538 Views
I tried too. *NM* - 10/11/2011 10:33:37 PM 242 Views
Sarah Palin would never tax Christmas. - 10/11/2011 07:56:29 PM 461 Views
I never even knew we had a National Christmas Tree Association, but this is dumb - 10/11/2011 09:08:43 PM 531 Views
An opinionated person on the internet? I don't believe you for a second! - 10/11/2011 10:24:02 PM 507 Views
Re: An opinionated person on the internet? I don't believe you for a second! - 10/11/2011 11:41:11 PM 548 Views

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