And if I have to shave twice between the beginning and ending of your reply, I'm really going to regret asking you.
The only thing he did not specifically mention is that, while many people support gay marriage, very few of them vote on that basis. So there are three groups:
1) Gays desperate for legal recognition of their right to marry.
2) Liberals, moderates and independents, who have no unanimous agreement on gay marriage, but few of whom use it to pick candidates.
3) Social conservatives enraged at the thought of two Obama appointees providing a 5-4 majority SCOTUS majority declaring gay marriage constitutional.
The second group is irrelevant; this issue is a non-factor in their choice for president, and the third group probably outnumbers the first by a fair margin. Worse, they would want revenge on Obama and to "reverse the damage," while gays have little to lose if Obama is defeated AFTER their constitutional right to marry is recognized. The only way their right to marry could realistically be threatened then would be an amendment to the US Constitution, to which the president is irrelevant.
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LoL. Be well, RAFOlk.
Last First in wotmania Chat
Slightly better than chocolate.
Love still can't be coerced.
Please Don't Eat the Newbies!

LoL. Be well, RAFOlk.
Same Sex Marriage legal in California again, 9th Circuit Court of Appeals overturns prop 8
07/02/2012 08:21:12 PM
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What a rollercoaster. Guess it's going in the right direction, though.
07/02/2012 09:08:53 PM
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While I usually think the Ninth Circuit is smoking crack, this was a reasonable decision. *NM*
07/02/2012 09:38:17 PM
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not crack, more like marijuana for "medicinal" purposes....
*NM*
08/02/2012 03:41:20 AM
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Medicinal marijuana could not make the Ninth Circuit as crazy as they are.
08/02/2012 06:12:31 AM
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It's funny how religious laws are when this is supposed to be the land of religious freedom
07/02/2012 10:10:35 PM
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Finally. My and MGB's fantasy of being married by Patrick Stewart at San Diego Comic Con comes true. *NM*
07/02/2012 10:22:25 PM
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did you give him a ring yet? if not, you'll have to wait
*NM*
07/02/2012 10:41:52 PM
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No point being in a hurry. It takes forever to get tickets to Comic Con. *NM*
07/02/2012 10:47:51 PM
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I disagree with this ruling. *NM*
08/02/2012 03:49:47 AM
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Well I disagree with my tax dollars being used on the purchasing of Tanks *NM*
08/02/2012 03:59:06 AM
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SCOTUS will overturn this ruling and uphold the ban,,,,,
09/02/2012 01:16:00 AM
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Very unlikely. The most likely outcome is a 5-4 decision upholding the 9th Circuit. *NM*
09/02/2012 01:24:08 AM
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Sure looks like it; good news for gays, bad news for Obama.
09/02/2012 02:23:24 AM
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The only way that I think the votes would change is if a justice died or had to retire.
09/02/2012 06:56:40 PM
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You lost me at bad news for Obama. How is such a ruling going to hurt him?
09/02/2012 08:45:28 PM
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Turn out
09/02/2012 10:53:07 PM
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You see, this is where I start to like those social conservatives.
09/02/2012 11:41:18 PM
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Roland pretty much covered it.
09/02/2012 11:35:06 PM
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5-4 decision overturning the 9th Circuit - no doubt..... *NM*
09/02/2012 03:09:17 AM
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You think Kennedy is going to vote to overturn? *NM*
09/02/2012 03:53:49 AM
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Yes, this case has nothing to do with gay marriage.....
09/02/2012 04:05:03 AM
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You really don't know what you are talking about
09/02/2012 04:18:35 AM
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Nice try, but no dice. SCOTUS will rule that it doesn't violate the 14th amendment. *NM*
09/02/2012 04:21:30 AM
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Do you hear what you are saying?
09/02/2012 04:27:15 AM
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You are getting confused.....SCOTUS will rule that the public vote doesn't violate.....
09/02/2012 04:45:38 AM
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Congrats; sucks for Obama and Congressional Dems though.
09/02/2012 02:38:22 AM
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