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Update: Despite rules requiring they be split, the MI GOP is giving Romney BOTH statewide delegates. Joel Send a noteboard - 02/03/2012 11:10:56 PM
To clarify for still confused Tea Partiers: Sit down and shut up; GOP leaders nominated Romney before Thanksgiving of 2008, and your only role is to dutifully vote for him THIS November. For Ron Paul supporters: I think the private insurance Robamacare requires you buy covers lithium and thorazine.... :P
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Now That Romney Is Officially the Republican Presidential Nominee: Pick the President! Joel - 29/02/2012 08:29:02 PM 1847 Views
I agree Romney will be the candidate. Tom - 29/02/2012 08:54:52 PM 902 Views
I would say the math favors Romney over Obama, but it will probably be close either way. Joel - 01/03/2012 03:37:52 PM 998 Views
I have never understood the point of the Electoral College. Tim - 29/02/2012 11:39:11 PM 975 Views
You don't think like a politician then Isaac - 01/03/2012 12:38:36 AM 1034 Views
I certainly hadn't considered much of that. I'm glad you posted it. *NM* Ghavrel - 01/03/2012 07:15:03 AM 452 Views
I also have not seen most of that mentioned in the popular vs. electoral debate. Joel - 01/03/2012 02:34:31 PM 928 Views
what about one vote one value? wadsy - 02/03/2012 11:51:32 PM 1096 Views
That has not really changed. Joel - 03/03/2012 03:30:34 AM 1209 Views
a bit simplistic and unrealistic wadsy - 02/03/2012 11:44:02 PM 967 Views
When illustrating a point realism is not required and simplicity is a plus Isaac - 03/03/2012 03:04:26 AM 1012 Views
I have a couple quibbles. Joel - 03/03/2012 05:23:46 AM 1020 Views
Oh, certainly, I'm over-generalizing but I was already getting long-winded Isaac - 03/03/2012 06:52:04 AM 950 Views
I hate when people do that. Joel - 05/03/2012 09:49:36 AM 984 Views
What a bunch of waffle! wadsy - 03/03/2012 10:47:19 AM 1108 Views
First you complain of simplicity then of my lack of brevity? Isaac - 03/03/2012 11:18:11 AM 871 Views
A simplistic argument doesn't mean it's brief *NM* wadsy - 03/03/2012 09:55:51 PM 466 Views
Also I don't like this refrain that implies only the POTUS vote matters Isaac - 03/03/2012 03:29:58 AM 1123 Views
IMHO, parliaments choosing prime ministers is LESS democratic than the electoral college. Joel - 03/03/2012 05:57:41 AM 928 Views
Re: IMHO, parliaments choosing prime ministers is LESS democratic than the electoral college. Isaac - 03/03/2012 07:02:30 AM 972 Views
*is learning* Joel - 04/03/2012 09:49:42 PM 930 Views
Re: *is learning* Isaac - 04/03/2012 09:56:16 PM 974 Views
To the extent I can (yet again) claim to speak for Europeans... Legolas - 04/03/2012 10:33:01 PM 925 Views
I've fairly limited exposure and that from some years back Isaac - 04/03/2012 11:35:12 PM 1039 Views
Re: *is learning* Joel - 05/03/2012 12:08:08 AM 1011 Views
You could imitate the French. Legolas - 07/03/2012 10:40:16 PM 926 Views
That seems... unlikely.... Joel - 08/03/2012 03:03:54 PM 937 Views
It does, doesn't it? Legolas - 08/03/2012 06:11:08 PM 1106 Views
After I thought about it more, I realized France and the US are not so different in that respect. Joel - 08/03/2012 08:51:03 PM 900 Views
More similar than the other major Western democracies at least, agreed. Legolas - 08/03/2012 09:32:55 PM 899 Views
I did not realize lack of a parliamentary majority dictated his cabinet. Joel - 09/03/2012 12:27:31 AM 975 Views
I don't know much about Norwegian politics, but you seem to be wrong. Legolas - 03/03/2012 06:18:08 PM 965 Views
Do you happen to have that link, please? Joel - 03/03/2012 06:46:31 PM 856 Views
Sure. Legolas - 03/03/2012 06:58:07 PM 1080 Views
Guess we did not read far enough. Joel - 03/03/2012 10:38:07 PM 984 Views
Yeah, you have to know a few things about European politics... Legolas - 03/03/2012 11:49:44 PM 1180 Views
Hey, man, I am an AMERICAN: I do not HAVE to know ANYTHING! Joel - 04/03/2012 11:46:57 PM 1185 Views
Re: Hey, man, I am an AMERICAN: I do not HAVE to know ANYTHING! Legolas - 05/03/2012 11:14:42 PM 1544 Views
Re: Hey, man, I am an AMERICAN: I do not HAVE to know ANYTHING! Joel - 08/03/2012 02:56:02 PM 1019 Views
Re: Yeah, you have to know a few things about European politics... DomA - 05/03/2012 06:56:24 AM 972 Views
The thing is, regions often have national relevance far greater than their populations would suggest Joel - 05/03/2012 10:21:26 AM 937 Views
Fascinating. Legolas - 05/03/2012 10:52:32 PM 971 Views
Re: Yeah, you have to know a few things about European politics... Macharius - 08/03/2012 07:11:12 PM 928 Views
Many valid reasons, including those Isaac cited. Joel - 02/03/2012 02:26:37 AM 1090 Views
Most states are ignored anyway wadsy - 02/03/2012 11:56:12 PM 1153 Views
Only because and to the extent they have already committed themselves. Joel - 03/03/2012 03:41:39 AM 987 Views
Why would we do something logical? Dude, you're utterly ridiculous. *NM* callandor1000 - 05/03/2012 04:53:38 PM 494 Views
I'm kind of sad- does this mean Santorum won't be providing wonderful sound bites anymore? beetnemesis - 01/03/2012 02:22:31 PM 895 Views
Nothing has shut him up yet, why should this? *NM* Dannymac - 01/03/2012 05:27:30 PM 479 Views
Maybe he'll pull a Palin and go touring around the country *NM* beetnemesis - 01/03/2012 07:06:02 PM 443 Views
No, it probably means we will get more and worse than ever. Joel - 01/03/2012 11:25:25 PM 1067 Views
Romney or Obama, either way, America loses. *NM* Hieshyn - 02/03/2012 01:10:26 AM 659 Views
Hard to dispute that either; six of one, half a dozen of the other. Joel - 02/03/2012 01:38:07 AM 878 Views
Couldn't agree more *NM* Hieshyn - 02/03/2012 06:52:51 PM 553 Views
It reminds me of when Denver backed into the NFL playoffs. Joel - 02/03/2012 09:36:13 PM 868 Views
I'd agree hope and change was extremely unrealistic wadsy - 02/03/2012 11:58:57 PM 874 Views
Well, you know my story there; I voted for Obama and got Hillary (at best.) Joel - 03/03/2012 01:43:20 AM 903 Views
Update: Despite rules requiring they be split, the MI GOP is giving Romney BOTH statewide delegates. Joel - 02/03/2012 11:10:56 PM 995 Views
Romney is damaged wadsy - 02/03/2012 11:27:33 PM 867 Views
Obama is rather damaged also; it will probably come down to FL and OH, yet again. Joel - 03/03/2012 02:23:53 AM 1025 Views
I'm hoping for Rubio as VP... then FL probably won't matter Isaac - 03/03/2012 04:28:08 AM 874 Views
You should put that on your license plates. Joel - 03/03/2012 06:41:34 AM 1044 Views
Re: You should put that on your license plates. Isaac - 03/03/2012 06:51:00 AM 970 Views
Ax murderers are people, too! Joel - 04/03/2012 08:23:41 PM 913 Views
And what are you basing all of this on? wadsy - 03/03/2012 09:54:06 PM 976 Views
The closeness of several states when Obama was far more popular, and UTs heavily Mormon neighbors. Joel - 03/03/2012 11:44:06 PM 977 Views
Wrong wadsy - 04/03/2012 08:08:56 AM 1063 Views
Higher turnout magnifies the Mormon effect. Joel - 04/03/2012 08:08:09 PM 1129 Views
Your reasoning is flawed and if you can't see it there is no hope for you wadsy - 05/03/2012 11:39:04 PM 1056 Views
Yeah, I think we had that conversation already, several times, in fact. Joel - 07/03/2012 05:36:45 AM 856 Views
Do you have any knowledge of statistics at all? wadsy - 07/03/2012 09:04:15 PM 1035 Views
I hate this message board wadsy - 07/03/2012 09:06:30 PM 826 Views
It would probably help if you deleted the stuff from two, three posts back? Legolas - 07/03/2012 09:25:40 PM 934 Views
Some, though it is far from exhaustive. Joel - 08/03/2012 02:29:06 PM 1073 Views
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