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As I said. Confusing terminology. Legolas Send a noteboard - 28/09/2009 11:32:46 AM

To be fair, I had to look them up myself, but all the economic hallmarks of economic liberalism are part and parcel of what we style "fiscal conservatism. " Which frankly makes more sense to me; if "curtailing red tape, privatizations, deregulation, curtailing public subsidies, and a reform of collective bargaining laws" is "liberal" now, does that make socialism "conservative"? In what world does that make sense...?


The logical opposite of "conservative" would be "progressive", not "liberal", and it makes perfect sense that a more pro-free-market stance is "liberal".

Incidentally, in certain parts of Europe, not so much Germany perhaps but France for instance, the socialist movement is certainly conservative: stuck in the past, defending past achievements at all costs and strongly resistant to change (except with regards to certain evolutions like LGBT rights). Between Sarkozy's UMP and the opposition PS, the former is more right-wing, but the latter is a lot more conservative.
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First Germany, next Great Britain - - 27/09/2009 11:24:48 PM 774 Views
Your terminology is confusing... - 27/09/2009 11:40:38 PM 472 Views
He's speaking in American terms. - 28/09/2009 12:42:57 AM 488 Views
As I said. Confusing terminology. - 28/09/2009 11:32:46 AM 540 Views
"Conservative" and "liberal" seem like perfect antonyms to me. - 29/09/2009 05:22:36 PM 545 Views
That'd be because you are american - 29/09/2009 07:13:09 PM 427 Views
What Floffe said. - 29/09/2009 07:31:51 PM 506 Views
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Sorry, do you think Labour is a liberal party? *NM* - 27/09/2009 11:42:26 PM 236 Views
Yes I do. Left-wing Liberals, the very worst of both worlds. *NM* - 27/09/2009 11:58:24 PM 259 Views
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I am more thinking we will have to spray you with a riot hose *NM* - 29/09/2009 09:27:10 PM 192 Views
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For some reason, I read that as "spay you"... - 29/09/2009 10:24:20 PM 522 Views
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Also what I read about the fdp in summary - 29/09/2009 09:18:11 PM 303 Views
you're such a complete sheep. *NM* - 28/09/2009 02:18:14 AM 306 Views
It doesn't make that much of a difference who is in charge anyway - 28/09/2009 08:41:55 AM 421 Views
According to an analysis that I read in the NYT, it may. - 28/09/2009 01:24:05 PM 336 Views
That same article says radical changes are unlikely, though. - 28/09/2009 01:43:30 PM 544 Views
No one said there would be radical changes. But there will be changes - 28/09/2009 01:56:01 PM 435 Views
Merkel is further to the left than most if not all Democrats in government here in the US. - 28/09/2009 01:25:09 PM 487 Views
In comparison, that's true of course *NM* - 28/09/2009 01:35:35 PM 246 Views
He is quite ignorant. - 28/09/2009 01:41:54 PM 382 Views

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