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The problems would have been the same, but handling fixing them would have been different. Tom Send a noteboard - 30/08/2012 03:48:15 PM
I agree that we cannot ever know whether or not Hillary would have handled the problems better, but it is clear that she understood Washington and how to get results out of the system far better than the junior senator from Illinois.
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/Survey - For Obama voters: in all seriousness, how many of you wish Hillary had won in 2008? Tom - 29/08/2012 02:47:36 AM 891 Views
Post-October 2008 would have been a dog's supper for whomever was going to be elected President Larry - 29/08/2012 02:50:36 AM 577 Views
Yo. Joel - 29/08/2012 04:33:28 AM 595 Views
Mheh... a little hindsight bias maybe??? everynametaken - 29/08/2012 05:11:41 AM 620 Views
The neo-cons AND the religious right have been sidelined. Tom - 29/08/2012 01:44:04 PM 577 Views
Yes, but I don't think it would have made a significant difference. Ghavrel - 29/08/2012 11:48:22 AM 671 Views
That's clearly incorrect. Tom - 29/08/2012 01:38:21 PM 564 Views
I truly can't say, since I think we might be saying exactly the same thing about her right now. *NM* nossy - 29/08/2012 07:45:15 PM 264 Views
I honestly don't know how you can possibly think that. Macharius - 29/08/2012 08:14:04 PM 591 Views
Too bad nossy - 29/08/2012 09:08:30 PM 704 Views
The situation sucked when Obama took office, and he did virtually nothing about it. Tom - 30/08/2012 03:46:02 PM 817 Views
I 95% agree. Macharius - 30/08/2012 04:23:19 PM 559 Views
Also, Tom: Macharius - 30/08/2012 04:35:08 PM 516 Views
I 95% agree with your statement, too. Tom - 30/08/2012 05:31:40 PM 512 Views
Fair point. Joel - 29/08/2012 11:14:58 PM 562 Views
i don't know. she may have had all kinds of other problems and things might be the same now. temeraire - 29/08/2012 07:54:45 PM 565 Views
The problems would have been the same, but handling fixing them would have been different. Tom - 30/08/2012 03:48:15 PM 544 Views
Me. *NM* Macharius - 29/08/2012 08:08:21 PM 263 Views
Me too. ranagrande - 29/08/2012 08:19:08 PM 551 Views
I didn't vote for him but yes she would have been better Praziquantel - 29/08/2012 08:40:59 PM 557 Views
Obviously didn't actually vote, but aye. *NM* Legolas - 29/08/2012 09:00:10 PM 244 Views
I imagine someone would have posted - snoopcester - 29/08/2012 09:20:45 PM 555 Views
Someone might have, but I find it hard to believe she would be as bad Tom - 30/08/2012 03:54:09 PM 552 Views
Not true Praziquantel - 30/08/2012 04:49:51 PM 672 Views
I like that - "By thoroughly smashing his competition for the Peace Prize"...I laughed out loud. Tom - 30/08/2012 05:28:16 PM 525 Views
No, but I say that with a great deal of reluctance and doubt. *NM* Burr - 29/08/2012 09:47:21 PM 227 Views
I would actually like for Biden to retire and Obama to slide Hillary into VP mid-October. TaskmasterJack - 29/08/2012 11:13:31 PM 531 Views
and then resign. *NM* ranagrande - 29/08/2012 11:21:55 PM 271 Views
It's way too late to do that and not look bad. Tom - 30/08/2012 04:02:11 PM 548 Views
Also obviously not a voter but Stephen - 30/08/2012 01:35:22 AM 549 Views
Counter-question Camilla - 30/08/2012 08:46:20 AM 651 Views
You mean would I vote for Hillary over Romney? Tom - 30/08/2012 03:56:28 PM 658 Views
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