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I 95% agree. Macharius Send a noteboard - 30/08/2012 04:23:19 PM
This bill, which ironically became known as ObamaCare, was rammed through Congress with absolutely no consideration of the Republican opposition


Not to get all "Joel", but ObamaCare is Romney's plan from MA applied at the federal level lock, stock, and barrel. Not to mention that Republican input was meaningless when the Republican platform consisted of 100% obstructionism. He could've taken McCain's proposal from the election and the Republican party would've blocked it just as hard.
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/Survey - For Obama voters: in all seriousness, how many of you wish Hillary had won in 2008? Tom - 29/08/2012 02:47:36 AM 749 Views
Post-October 2008 would have been a dog's supper for whomever was going to be elected President Larry - 29/08/2012 02:50:36 AM 443 Views
Yo. Joel - 29/08/2012 04:33:28 AM 457 Views
Mheh... a little hindsight bias maybe??? everynametaken - 29/08/2012 05:11:41 AM 481 Views
The neo-cons AND the religious right have been sidelined. Tom - 29/08/2012 01:44:04 PM 428 Views
Yes, but I don't think it would have made a significant difference. Ghavrel - 29/08/2012 11:48:22 AM 530 Views
That's clearly incorrect. Tom - 29/08/2012 01:38:21 PM 422 Views
I truly can't say, since I think we might be saying exactly the same thing about her right now. *NM* nossy - 29/08/2012 07:45:15 PM 195 Views
I honestly don't know how you can possibly think that. Macharius - 29/08/2012 08:14:04 PM 452 Views
Too bad nossy - 29/08/2012 09:08:30 PM 564 Views
The situation sucked when Obama took office, and he did virtually nothing about it. Tom - 30/08/2012 03:46:02 PM 651 Views
I 95% agree. Macharius - 30/08/2012 04:23:19 PM 428 Views
Also, Tom: Macharius - 30/08/2012 04:35:08 PM 395 Views
I 95% agree with your statement, too. Tom - 30/08/2012 05:31:40 PM 385 Views
Fair point. Joel - 29/08/2012 11:14:58 PM 433 Views
i don't know. she may have had all kinds of other problems and things might be the same now. temeraire - 29/08/2012 07:54:45 PM 425 Views
The problems would have been the same, but handling fixing them would have been different. Tom - 30/08/2012 03:48:15 PM 412 Views
Me. *NM* Macharius - 29/08/2012 08:08:21 PM 198 Views
Me too. ranagrande - 29/08/2012 08:19:08 PM 402 Views
I didn't vote for him but yes she would have been better Praziquantel - 29/08/2012 08:40:59 PM 416 Views
Obviously didn't actually vote, but aye. *NM* Legolas - 29/08/2012 09:00:10 PM 182 Views
I imagine someone would have posted - snoopcester - 29/08/2012 09:20:45 PM 415 Views
Someone might have, but I find it hard to believe she would be as bad Tom - 30/08/2012 03:54:09 PM 411 Views
Not true Praziquantel - 30/08/2012 04:49:51 PM 535 Views
I like that - "By thoroughly smashing his competition for the Peace Prize"...I laughed out loud. Tom - 30/08/2012 05:28:16 PM 388 Views
No, but I say that with a great deal of reluctance and doubt. *NM* Burr - 29/08/2012 09:47:21 PM 167 Views
I would actually like for Biden to retire and Obama to slide Hillary into VP mid-October. TaskmasterJack - 29/08/2012 11:13:31 PM 392 Views
and then resign. *NM* ranagrande - 29/08/2012 11:21:55 PM 207 Views
It's way too late to do that and not look bad. Tom - 30/08/2012 04:02:11 PM 400 Views
Also obviously not a voter but Stephen - 30/08/2012 01:35:22 AM 412 Views
Counter-question Camilla - 30/08/2012 08:46:20 AM 521 Views
You mean would I vote for Hillary over Romney? Tom - 30/08/2012 03:56:28 PM 462 Views
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