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I 95% agree. Macharius Send a noteboard - 30/08/2012 04:23:19 PM
This bill, which ironically became known as ObamaCare, was rammed through Congress with absolutely no consideration of the Republican opposition


Not to get all "Joel", but ObamaCare is Romney's plan from MA applied at the federal level lock, stock, and barrel. Not to mention that Republican input was meaningless when the Republican platform consisted of 100% obstructionism. He could've taken McCain's proposal from the election and the Republican party would've blocked it just as hard.
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/Survey - For Obama voters: in all seriousness, how many of you wish Hillary had won in 2008? Tom - 29/08/2012 02:47:36 AM 824 Views
Post-October 2008 would have been a dog's supper for whomever was going to be elected President Larry - 29/08/2012 02:50:36 AM 518 Views
Yo. Joel - 29/08/2012 04:33:28 AM 527 Views
Mheh... a little hindsight bias maybe??? everynametaken - 29/08/2012 05:11:41 AM 557 Views
The neo-cons AND the religious right have been sidelined. Tom - 29/08/2012 01:44:04 PM 507 Views
Yes, but I don't think it would have made a significant difference. Ghavrel - 29/08/2012 11:48:22 AM 604 Views
That's clearly incorrect. Tom - 29/08/2012 01:38:21 PM 498 Views
I truly can't say, since I think we might be saying exactly the same thing about her right now. *NM* nossy - 29/08/2012 07:45:15 PM 225 Views
I honestly don't know how you can possibly think that. Macharius - 29/08/2012 08:14:04 PM 525 Views
Too bad nossy - 29/08/2012 09:08:30 PM 642 Views
The situation sucked when Obama took office, and he did virtually nothing about it. Tom - 30/08/2012 03:46:02 PM 743 Views
I 95% agree. Macharius - 30/08/2012 04:23:19 PM 493 Views
Also, Tom: Macharius - 30/08/2012 04:35:08 PM 454 Views
I 95% agree with your statement, too. Tom - 30/08/2012 05:31:40 PM 446 Views
Fair point. Joel - 29/08/2012 11:14:58 PM 506 Views
i don't know. she may have had all kinds of other problems and things might be the same now. temeraire - 29/08/2012 07:54:45 PM 500 Views
The problems would have been the same, but handling fixing them would have been different. Tom - 30/08/2012 03:48:15 PM 481 Views
Me. *NM* Macharius - 29/08/2012 08:08:21 PM 232 Views
Me too. ranagrande - 29/08/2012 08:19:08 PM 482 Views
I didn't vote for him but yes she would have been better Praziquantel - 29/08/2012 08:40:59 PM 496 Views
Obviously didn't actually vote, but aye. *NM* Legolas - 29/08/2012 09:00:10 PM 212 Views
I imagine someone would have posted - snoopcester - 29/08/2012 09:20:45 PM 491 Views
Someone might have, but I find it hard to believe she would be as bad Tom - 30/08/2012 03:54:09 PM 484 Views
Not true Praziquantel - 30/08/2012 04:49:51 PM 609 Views
I like that - "By thoroughly smashing his competition for the Peace Prize"...I laughed out loud. Tom - 30/08/2012 05:28:16 PM 464 Views
No, but I say that with a great deal of reluctance and doubt. *NM* Burr - 29/08/2012 09:47:21 PM 198 Views
I would actually like for Biden to retire and Obama to slide Hillary into VP mid-October. TaskmasterJack - 29/08/2012 11:13:31 PM 462 Views
and then resign. *NM* ranagrande - 29/08/2012 11:21:55 PM 239 Views
It's way too late to do that and not look bad. Tom - 30/08/2012 04:02:11 PM 481 Views
Also obviously not a voter but Stephen - 30/08/2012 01:35:22 AM 486 Views
Counter-question Camilla - 30/08/2012 08:46:20 AM 593 Views
You mean would I vote for Hillary over Romney? Tom - 30/08/2012 03:56:28 PM 560 Views
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