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I guess his is perhaps a true "politically incorrect" comment (much as I hate that phrase)? Larry Send a noteboard - 19/09/2012 12:05:48 AM
There are entire segments of the population who are in a dependency cycle who will not even consider voting for Romney because they look to Obama to just, well, give them more. 47% or not, Romney's point is that it's a waste of his time to try to pander to the people who just ask the government to help and nothing more, and under Obama those numbers have swelled.

Obama's policies don't really inspire much confidence, either. He says he wants to reduce unemployment, then implements laws that discourage employment because he has a lot of other goals for special interest groups in his party.

I'll agree that Romney's comment was stupid. I think Romney did a significant amount of damage to his chances of winning, too. However, I don't think that his basic point is wrong.


I'm not denying there are people who do abuse the systems in place (one of my cousins does so; she's not a favorite of mine in part because of such an attitude toward people/government), but there's just no really good alternative at the moment that I can see. Maybe tweaks, but radical overhauls will, for a time at least, displace millions who otherwise might have made ends meet.

My initial response was to the lumping together of quite a few disparate groups into that statistic and throwing in that pablum about "responsibility." Considering how galling it is for those like myself to have to depend upon UI for a while to pay some bills, it does grate to have that tacked onto a message that, while I disagree with it out of general principle, is at least a valid point of view.
Illusions fall like the husk of a fruit, one after another, and the fruit is experience. - Narrator, Sylvie

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So I guess I'm part of the "47%"? - 18/09/2012 04:40:11 AM 1051 Views
Lots of lazy people out there - everyone should work, whether or not it is the..... - 18/09/2012 04:55:29 AM 574 Views
Oh, I love to work when it's available... - 18/09/2012 05:01:21 AM 543 Views
You can't find work as a teacher? *NM* - 18/09/2012 05:07:04 AM 276 Views
I have history, government, ESL, and English certs - 18/09/2012 05:17:25 AM 494 Views
you're a teacher?? FREELOADER!!! - 18/09/2012 03:12:38 PM 495 Views
Unemployment is either the fault of people too lazy to work, or Obamas fault. - 18/09/2012 05:28:26 AM 511 Views
That's... actually a cogent point. *NM* - 18/09/2012 09:11:07 AM 242 Views
Happy to oblige. - 18/09/2012 09:28:48 AM 527 Views
Re: Happy to oblige. - 18/09/2012 03:08:09 PM 464 Views
You would be surprised how well that does NOT work. - 18/09/2012 03:13:23 PM 512 Views
Well, that's not exactly the point, and I think you know it. - 18/09/2012 05:24:48 PM 508 Views
In terms of employment, it really is, inescapably. - 18/09/2012 09:48:28 PM 646 Views
Nope. - 18/09/2012 10:29:50 PM 492 Views
That's not really the point though, is it? - 18/09/2012 09:41:52 AM 519 Views
Re: That's not really the point though, is it? - 18/09/2012 12:58:32 PM 502 Views
That makes sense. - 18/09/2012 01:12:03 PM 498 Views
You never did answer my questions in the previous thread - 18/09/2012 04:57:20 PM 499 Views
Just from my point of view.... - 18/09/2012 05:05:45 PM 470 Views
You are only saying that because he is not latino! - 18/09/2012 05:20:14 AM 623 Views
Pues... - 18/09/2012 05:25:24 AM 668 Views
You mean he really IS latino! Ohnoes, Obama is DOOOOMED! - 18/09/2012 05:40:21 AM 582 Views
God, how I despise this attitude of his - 18/09/2012 09:42:34 AM 569 Views
We need a safety net - 18/09/2012 05:08:43 PM 508 Views
You are forgetting that Obama only graduated due to the evils of Affirmative Action - 18/09/2012 05:16:24 PM 540 Views
Lets say I accept that premise of admittance was caused by Affirmative Action - 18/09/2012 05:33:13 PM 494 Views
Just to answer your questions.... - 18/09/2012 05:54:33 PM 527 Views
Harvard Law Review - 18/09/2012 06:53:47 PM 494 Views
Ok.... - 18/09/2012 09:49:15 PM 484 Views
Occam's razor? - 18/09/2012 10:23:42 PM 523 Views
What I'm saying... - 18/09/2012 11:12:34 PM 523 Views
I should note my comment was joking *NM* - 18/09/2012 10:40:42 PM 257 Views
And we are going to see plenty more of it, it seems - 18/09/2012 08:57:45 PM 666 Views
WE ARE THE 47 PERCENT! - 18/09/2012 03:07:09 PM 507 Views
It's valid to argue about the number (and everyone is), but Romney's basic point is valid. - 18/09/2012 10:59:48 PM 507 Views
I guess his is perhaps a true "politically incorrect" comment (much as I hate that phrase)? - 19/09/2012 12:05:48 AM 481 Views
I don't know that it really hurts him that bad. - 19/09/2012 12:55:36 AM 533 Views
I am the 85% - 19/09/2012 10:57:23 PM 658 Views

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