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They really need to get together with the Greens. Joel Send a noteboard - 23/10/2012 07:02:18 AM
He held his own, he made the President look weak at times. I didn't think Obama won the debate. Of course, I also really lost interest halfway through because we've heard everything before. This debate was almost superfluous. I'm also getting sick of both of them, frankly. Two weeks and then I don't want to hear about politics for a while, even if we have a fiscal cliff.


I don't like a lot of the administration's policies when it comes to foreign affairs, but having a challenger agreeing with quite a few of them makes it difficult to see any real difference between the two, other than it seeming to me that Obama articulated his policies better than Romney could critique them.

That being said, I'm going to vote tomorrow (most likely) and I will not be voting for either one of them. Probably going to vote for Rocky Anderson and the Justice Party, as it's a bit more palatable to me than the other parties in terms of its platform.

All the far left parties do; even after examining them in detail I cannot see any differences worth mentioning between the Peace and Freedom, Justice or Green Parties (and the only difference between them and the Grassroots Party is its obsession with legalizing pot.) Consequently it is hard to conclude any of them are doing anything except splitting the liberal vote. Not only is that a bad idea in terms of winning elections, it is a bad idea in terms of getting ANY third party the 5% polling it needs for FEC funding or the 15% it needs for a seat at the NEXT presidential debates.

I am obliged to note Rocky Anderson is only on the ballot in 16 states, and only a valid write-in candidate in 14 more. That is technically enough; winning every single one would earn him 307 electoral votes, but since he is a write-in candidate most voters have never heard of in TX, NY, IL and PA, he has no realistic chance of victory. Conversely, Jill Stein is on the ballot in 37 states (with 441 electoral votes,) a valid write-in candidate in 5 more (with 48 electoral votes) and has petitioned for access in all the rest except OK and NV. Same platform, but FAR more electable. More importantly, unifying behind a single slate of candidates could well win the combined party local or even statewide races critical to the credibility, candidates and infrastructure needed for eventual presidential wins.

Just a suggestion; again, the policies are so indistinguishable, and so infinitely better than the GOP, Dem or Lib offerings, I would cheerfully vote for whichever candidate the combined parties agreed on unless the policies radically changed. However, there is little question who has the best national organization, which is what national relevance requires. I could beat Roseanne and Cindy Sheehan for even running; they are not policy makers and cannot legally win, but will dilute the votes of candidates who are and can.
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Between the ships, horses, bayonets, and lines about loving teachers... - 23/10/2012 04:44:32 AM 1070 Views
He loves teachers, but only so long as we are seen and not heard. - 23/10/2012 05:07:15 AM 530 Views
Or have the benefits of the golden parachutes - 23/10/2012 05:32:04 AM 537 Views
Which might those be? - 23/10/2012 07:25:24 AM 528 Views
Also "heaven and earth" and bankrupt Detroit. - 23/10/2012 12:23:21 PM 526 Views
Both those charges are fact checked and verified. - 23/10/2012 03:05:01 PM 534 Views
Romney did a good job, ultimately. - 23/10/2012 05:13:00 AM 502 Views
I think it's safe to say foreign policy doesn't interest either of them all that much - 23/10/2012 05:30:53 AM 492 Views
They really need to get together with the Greens. - 23/10/2012 07:02:18 AM 554 Views
The instapolls declared Obama victor in #1 too, Romney won this one - 23/10/2012 06:00:26 AM 691 Views
*blinks* - 23/10/2012 06:08:00 AM 573 Views
Which instapoll said Obama won the first debate? - 23/10/2012 06:18:45 AM 458 Views
My favorite gaffe of the night: - 23/10/2012 06:07:19 AM 547 Views
It was a poorly worded statement, the "sea" being referred to is the Med, but essentially correct. - 23/10/2012 07:16:37 PM 533 Views
What is this, the 19th century? Why is the Med so important? - 23/10/2012 10:20:11 PM 542 Views
They want holidays in the sun, too - 24/10/2012 05:32:44 AM 489 Views
Commercial, Iran doesn't have a navy worth mentioning. - 24/10/2012 03:41:46 PM 531 Views
Okay, commercial, that narrows it down. How, exactly? - 24/10/2012 06:02:01 PM 504 Views
Right family (Hussein of Jordan), wrong generation by a few hundered years. - 25/10/2012 06:16:51 PM 543 Views
Hm. Curious who you mean, then. - 25/10/2012 11:52:06 PM 535 Views
You are too hung up on a "port" - 26/10/2012 03:13:59 PM 455 Views
That's what Romney and you said, isn't it? Access to the Mediterranean. - 26/10/2012 11:30:55 PM 631 Views
Re: That's what Romney and you said, isn't it? Access to the Mediterranean. - 29/10/2012 02:23:33 PM 553 Views
Well, you get points for stubbornness, that's for sure. - 29/10/2012 03:26:50 PM 870 Views
and one he seems to keep making - how many times do you give someone the benefit of the doubt? - 23/10/2012 11:46:55 PM 585 Views
it is simply a standard descriptive line. - 24/10/2012 03:54:49 PM 569 Views
What is? - 25/10/2012 11:15:28 AM 459 Views
that was my favorite as well. *NM* - 23/10/2012 08:10:36 PM 218 Views
These debates need a stat boy, PTI style. - 23/10/2012 06:43:02 AM 519 Views
I favor tasering them - 23/10/2012 06:46:43 AM 486 Views
Few people use zingers to decide who they will vote for - 26/10/2012 06:11:50 PM 476 Views

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