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Seems it depends on the legislation you're in. Legolas Send a noteboard - 25/10/2012 10:50:09 PM
Sexual Assault (which I associate in my mind with rape, but which I will try to separate the two for this discussion for legally they are different things) unlike Rape can be any unwanted sexual contact. Forcing to carry a baby to term without any consent is a violation of a women.

According to Wikipedia, the FBI updated their definition only this year, to read: "The penetration, no matter how slight, of the vagina or anus with any body part or object, or oral penetration by a sex organ of another person, without the consent of the victim."

Which means, and I think rightly so, that penetration with an object - including your turkey baster - is still rape. But in other countries the definition of rape is more narrow (possibly in the US too - the FBI having such a definition doesn't mean that criminal law says the same thing).

Anyhow, this is as you noted a rather pointless and inflammatory discussion. To get more or less back on track - am I the only one who isn't actually shocked by Mourdock's statement? If my source is correct, he said "Life is that gift from God that I think even if life begins in that horrible situation of rape, that it is something that God intended to happen."

While I obviously couldn't disagree more about outlawing abortion for women who've been raped, I don't really see why the statement is so controversial. I'm not sure how any conservative Christian could ever claim the opposite, so what's so scandalous about him saying it? Why would he need to apologize?
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every time a republican candidate mentions rape, i think of the following video - 25/10/2012 05:58:16 PM 840 Views
WTF was that?!?!?!?!? *NM* - 25/10/2012 06:22:46 PM 318 Views
I am SO GOING to get flamed for asking this - 25/10/2012 08:45:21 PM 528 Views
No, because God did not have sex with Mary. - 25/10/2012 09:23:12 PM 640 Views
Following that logic - 25/10/2012 09:25:11 PM 523 Views
Think of it in terms of The Merchant of Venice. - 25/10/2012 10:28:42 PM 498 Views
Closer than Roland, but still off. - 25/10/2012 09:51:12 PM 521 Views
The point I am horrible job making is this - 25/10/2012 10:12:53 PM 527 Views
Seems it depends on the legislation you're in. - 25/10/2012 10:50:09 PM 500 Views
One other thing - 25/10/2012 10:14:27 PM 509 Views
Fine by me; I am catholic, not Roman Catholic. - 25/10/2012 10:30:46 PM 510 Views
It's a bit more ambiguous than that. - 25/10/2012 10:39:15 PM 510 Views
It certainly does not say that - 26/10/2012 01:15:45 AM 498 Views
Evidently the Onion heard you - 26/10/2012 01:18:10 PM 756 Views
New GOP Congressmen daily refute the GOPs pretended support of rape exceptions to abortion bans. - 25/10/2012 10:07:21 PM 751 Views
This is not a source I generally resort to, but let me quote John Cornyn: - 25/10/2012 11:11:04 PM 505 Views
I think he is an idiot for saying it - 25/10/2012 11:53:01 PM 513 Views
How cynical. - 26/10/2012 12:02:14 AM 594 Views
Realist, thankyouverymuch - 26/10/2012 12:14:38 AM 467 Views

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