The opposite of "progressive" would be more like "traditional. " Regardless, I don't think a move in the direction of the failed laissez-faire policies of Dickensian Europe or Carnegies America constitute "progress" and IIRC the "progressive" movements of the time (in particular Americas Progressive Party) stood in strong opposition to them and for labor reform and rights. Seems like revisionist history to me, and it seems there's been a lot of it the past few decades, perhaps in the hopes that now that everyone who lived through those horrors is dead the rest of us will ignorantly allow their reanimation as "innovation. "
The entire point of both "progressive" and "conservative" in their most basic meaning is that they are relative concepts. As I said, "conservative" means resisting change, but depending on the current situation in one's country or society, two conservatives of different times or places can be defending entirely different things. Same with "progressive". Of course the meaning of all political terms changes somewhat over time, but at least words like "socialist" and "liberal" stand for certain fixed ideas, even if the practical realization of those ideas varies a lot. That cannot be said of "conservative" or "progressive" in their basic meanings, even if the US has given "conservative" a more specific meaning.
Other than that, it's fairly hilarious to talk about "a move in the direction of Dickensian Europe or Carnegies America" when discussing the FDP. Sure, it's a liberal party, but by American standards, it might as well be, er, liberal.
First Germany, next Great Britain -
- 27/09/2009 11:24:48 PM
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- 27/09/2009 11:24:48 PM
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Your terminology is confusing...
- 27/09/2009 11:40:38 PM
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- 27/09/2009 11:40:38 PM
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He's speaking in American terms.
- 28/09/2009 12:42:57 AM
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As I said. Confusing terminology.
- 28/09/2009 11:32:46 AM
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- 28/09/2009 11:32:46 AM
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"Conservative" and "liberal" seem like perfect antonyms to me.
- 29/09/2009 05:22:36 PM
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What Floffe said.
- 29/09/2009 07:31:51 PM
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Sorry, do you think Labour is a liberal party? *NM*
- 27/09/2009 11:42:26 PM
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Yes I do. Left-wing Liberals, the very worst of both worlds. *NM*
- 27/09/2009 11:58:24 PM
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Ooo, Germany-
- 28/09/2009 12:19:40 AM
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wtf
- 28/09/2009 01:26:18 PM
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I know, I know
- 28/09/2009 09:01:17 PM
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I've got something for your cuteness list
- 29/09/2009 08:35:30 AM
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Awww, let's hug him!
- 29/09/2009 06:26:44 PM
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- 29/09/2009 06:26:44 PM
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Him??
- 29/09/2009 08:55:03 PM
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- 29/09/2009 08:55:03 PM
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Well, he's the one with the cute last name!
- 29/09/2009 09:24:34 PM
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- 29/09/2009 09:24:34 PM
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I am more thinking we will have to spray you with a riot hose
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- 29/09/2009 09:27:10 PM
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- 29/09/2009 09:27:10 PM
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Thats...uh.....crazy talk
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- 29/09/2009 09:32:14 PM
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- 29/09/2009 09:32:14 PM
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For some reason, I read that as "spay you"...
- 29/09/2009 10:24:20 PM
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Won't be effective, just because she can't breed won't stop her fervent efforts from trying
- 29/09/2009 10:38:43 PM
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For an older gentleman, Guido Westerwelle isn't so bad looking
- 29/09/2009 03:20:17 PM
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Brown is not a liberal by any possible stretch of the term or imagination.
- 28/09/2009 01:48:17 AM
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It doesn't make that much of a difference who is in charge anyway
- 28/09/2009 08:41:55 AM
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According to an analysis that I read in the NYT, it may.
- 28/09/2009 01:24:05 PM
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That same article says radical changes are unlikely, though.
- 28/09/2009 01:43:30 PM
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No one said there would be radical changes. But there will be changes
- 28/09/2009 01:56:01 PM
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Merkel is further to the left than most if not all Democrats in government here in the US.
- 28/09/2009 01:25:09 PM
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