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Re: i understand your point about the reference NaClH2O Send a noteboard - 30/09/2009 10:57:36 PM
How can my statement be true but as misleading as a flawed study?

Oh puleeze! You deliberately missed the whole point. (it's either that or you are too dense to write a coherent sentence). The point is that people are not "bleeding to death" but they are still dying because they can't afford adequate health care, and medication is part of health care.
I notice that you were very quick to point out the flaws in the 2K WHO study, but how about the current poll recently published by the New England Journal of Medicine? The one in which 70% of the physicians who responded said they were in favor of some form of "government option". This is a group that works on a daily basis with medicaid and medicare. My own personal physician is in favor of a public option, and he maintains a clinic in a blue collar section of the Bronx. His view is that between the insurance companies, the pharmaceutical companies and a "few bad apple doctors" (his words) the health insurance system in the US is very very badly broken. His wife is a physician too, a first generation Norwegian and he says she is absolutely appalled at the state of health care in the US. He said that she says (I've never talked to her directly) that the people of Norway would have rebelled and taken to the streets if they had to endure what we endure.

NaCl(it's worse than broke and it needs radical change)H2O +<img class=' />
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Senate Finance Committee Votes Against Government-Run Health Insurance Plan - 29/09/2009 09:08:40 PM 727 Views
I just hope this doesn't squash all health-care reform attempts - 29/09/2009 09:12:15 PM 448 Views
It definitely needs work, but not scrapped..... - 29/09/2009 09:16:32 PM 451 Views
Polls are horrid evidence in my mind - 29/09/2009 09:32:58 PM 446 Views
Re: Polls are horrid evidence in my mind - 29/09/2009 10:12:26 PM 617 Views
From a government employee: Nice post *NM* - 29/09/2009 10:17:48 PM 188 Views
Not that I totally disagree with you, but that being said - 29/09/2009 10:29:13 PM 403 Views
Re: Not that I totally disagree with you, but that being said - 29/09/2009 11:21:21 PM 501 Views
the difference is the focus of the organizations - 29/09/2009 11:44:56 PM 469 Views
Re: the difference is the focus of the organizations - 30/09/2009 12:40:38 AM 513 Views
Difference is that the law is subject to more checks and balances than the whims of a CEO - 29/09/2009 11:44:58 PM 486 Views
Re: Difference is that the law is subject to more checks and balances than the whims of a CEO - 30/09/2009 12:28:36 AM 483 Views
that the private sector has a long history of abusing both customer and employee *NM* - 30/09/2009 03:46:03 AM 182 Views
That's indisbutable - 30/09/2009 05:55:45 PM 474 Views
And that's all I'm saying - 30/09/2009 07:08:04 PM 432 Views
Re: And that's all I'm saying - 01/10/2009 03:10:02 AM 468 Views
It doesn't work at all - 30/09/2009 04:27:44 AM 507 Views
i have yet to see any evidence of malpractice insurance being a driving cost of health care - 30/09/2009 05:27:34 AM 521 Views
it's not THAT they pay malpractice - 30/09/2009 02:00:04 PM 383 Views
but doctors are *required* to buy malpractice insurance - 30/09/2009 04:13:08 PM 431 Views
that's completely moot to the situation malpractice insurance causes. - 30/09/2009 04:21:42 PM 396 Views
hooray, we're going to continue in mediocrity when it comes to our health - 29/09/2009 10:15:00 PM 502 Views
Yes, it's comforting to see that we are only rated 37th... - 29/09/2009 11:14:33 PM 423 Views
That is a decade old and horribly discredited citation - 29/09/2009 11:46:51 PM 578 Views
regardless, we still spend a lot more on health care while having too many uncovered people - 29/09/2009 11:56:24 PM 419 Views
My objection, in this context, is strictly about references - 30/09/2009 12:13:40 AM 425 Views
i understand your point about the reference - 30/09/2009 12:54:25 AM 460 Views
Re: i understand your point about the reference - 30/09/2009 01:15:30 AM 530 Views
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Re: i understand your point about the reference - 30/09/2009 06:29:09 PM 500 Views
Re: i understand your point about the reference - 30/09/2009 10:57:36 PM 488 Views
Interesting... - 01/10/2009 12:09:35 AM 417 Views
So basically you are saying? - 01/10/2009 01:10:22 AM 393 Views
Basically... - 01/10/2009 02:52:51 AM 430 Views
Hooray! The government isn't going to get directly involved and make HC even worse! *NM* - 30/09/2009 01:03:50 AM 181 Views
yes, heaven forbid we take care of our own *NM* - 30/09/2009 04:13:50 PM 185 Views
looks l;ike they found some bipartisan spirit after all - 29/09/2009 10:35:55 PM 434 Views
Definitely wouldn't want to "denigrate" Health Care... - 30/09/2009 02:46:19 PM 388 Views

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