Active Users:193 Time:01/05/2024 02:27:55 PM
I noticed that too in the Cato study. Legolas Send a noteboard - 07/07/2013 09:50:19 AM

View original postYeah, because the media's opinion is notoriously relevant to most American Conservatives Incidentally many of those countries have prominent public TV/radio/papers/etc which generally lowers my belief in their freedom of the press, and not very many outlets. But I wouldn't claim the US has the freest press, anything but, yet I'd also point out that we have a very free press considering the pressures we are under not to, which many of those others don't have. Iceland, for instance, does not have hundreds of thousands of soldiers and spies out there vulnerable to exposure, research facilities others nations would murder to get a look inside, and all the other luxuries afforded countries on the second or third tier of power and influence.

That having public TV/radio channels immediately reduced one's score on press freedom by half, which needless to say is ridiculous as there isn't necessarily any link; public channels in Western democracies are editorially independent (you could point to Italy as an exception, but Berlusconi's private channels were much more biased towards him than the public ones were - him being allowed to retain his private channels while PM was the real problem, more than any dubious interference which there may have been with the public channels). Although in fairness, compared to how dire their "Security & Safety" calculations are, the one about public TV channels actually seems almost reasonable. The "sexual violence" scores, with 0 being worst and 10 best, for Canada, Germany, Sweden and Albania, are respectively 0.0, 0.1, 0.0 and 9.7. The United States, apparently, had no data. While the data on Female Genital Mutilation somehow seems to exist only for Latin-American countries and Hong Kong, granting all those countries an automatic top score to push up their average, which the EU, North-American and Oceanian countries don't get. The same goes for "Son Preference", although there not everybody gets a top score, for Albania it brings the average down instead of up.

The funny thing is that, in spite of having such blatantly ridiculous parameters and calculations, their results seem surprisingly close to how one would rank countries intuitively, albeit with a number of anomalies in either direction (Hong Kong in third place, while Belgium and Germany are at 32 and 35). I guess they figure if you take enough parameters, things will average out (though that would work better if some countries didn't simply lack data on half the parameters).

Reply to message
Gallup - Conservatives more proud to be American than Liberals..... - 04/07/2013 09:12:12 PM 1212 Views
I'm not surprised either. *NM* - 04/07/2013 09:19:25 PM 328 Views
How does one American? *NM* - 04/07/2013 09:58:03 PM 352 Views
That seems like a no-brainer. What I find more remarkable... - 04/07/2013 10:15:10 PM 650 Views
I'm not all that surprised by that, either. - 04/07/2013 10:47:41 PM 598 Views
I'm trying to think my way through this, and I keep running into holes. - 04/07/2013 10:48:59 PM 678 Views
I really don't want to get into the sickness known as nationalism (patriotism) - 05/07/2013 07:10:09 PM 813 Views
I'm curious — how would you avoid regionalism? - 05/07/2013 08:15:02 PM 658 Views
P.S. (more thoughts on worldwide government) - 05/07/2013 08:57:01 PM 611 Views
Interesting general thought train, let me hop on board - 07/07/2013 12:52:18 PM 729 Views
Mmm. - 09/07/2013 05:44:04 PM 700 Views
Interplanetary just doesn't leave much interdependence - 09/07/2013 08:14:18 PM 675 Views
Them's some cool beans. - 09/07/2013 09:11:50 PM 585 Views
Re: Them's some cool beans. - 09/07/2013 10:11:50 PM 589 Views
There were two questions on that poll. - 05/07/2013 07:53:13 PM 861 Views
That's because being born in America is the best thing they ever did - 05/07/2013 07:04:54 PM 796 Views
Congrats! You win the bitterness award. - 05/07/2013 09:49:00 PM 721 Views
Bitterness? How so? - 08/07/2013 05:26:50 PM 788 Views
Nice post. Your honor, I rest my case! *NM* - 08/07/2013 06:15:47 PM 332 Views
Er. Obviously? - 06/07/2013 02:24:44 PM 694 Views
By what measure, I wonder... - 06/07/2013 04:21:57 PM 661 Views
Being proud of America has zero to do with our government..... - 06/07/2013 04:57:30 PM 578 Views
I don't think this is accurate. - 06/07/2013 10:58:43 PM 685 Views
Re: I don't think this is accurate. - 06/07/2013 11:46:47 PM 664 Views
You'd have to list the study - 07/07/2013 12:10:13 AM 783 Views
Every study. - 07/07/2013 01:14:48 AM 759 Views
Really, you have a list of every single study conducted on the matter? - 07/07/2013 02:51:05 AM 765 Views
I have a list of every study I listed! - 07/07/2013 03:55:21 AM 856 Views
Damn, you just got schooled! Good Job by Isaac. - 07/07/2013 04:27:45 AM 641 Views
I hope you'll understand that I don't find that compelling - 07/07/2013 05:07:52 AM 800 Views
I noticed that too in the Cato study. - 07/07/2013 09:50:19 AM 672 Views
Nice non-reply. - 09/07/2013 05:23:25 PM 653 Views
You didn't say anything meriting an in-depth response - 09/07/2013 08:52:13 PM 597 Views
Actually.... - 10/07/2013 03:00:42 AM 572 Views
Pride comes before the fall. *NM* - 12/07/2013 06:33:56 PM 369 Views

Reply to Message