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Yeah, but you are forgetting something rather important HyogaRott Send a noteboard - 11/07/2013 06:41:54 PM

1.2 We have Zimmernman's recorded statement to the police dispatcher & Martin's statement to his girlfriend (as testified to by her) that Martin "lost" Zimmerman.

This is an inturruption in the "stalking" (a term I disagree with but will let stand) and the physical altercation.

As soon as Marting had eluded Zuimmerman, he can no longer use the "stalking" as a justification for his assault thus his attack on Zimmerman was unprovoked and criminal making the shooting of Martin, while probably tragic, completely justifiable..

Additionally, though it is an incredibly tough (thought not impossible) position to take and defend in court, person A can illegally assault person B, get physically pummled by B, and then shoot them in self defense. You can't make a "Stand your Ground" argument (and be shielded from civil liability) but you can make a justifiable homicide criminal defense (think joe schmo attacks someone who holds 9th degree black belt in 15 different arts and the black belt won't stop hitting him after joe is defeseless with debilitating injuries).

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Looks like Zimmerman is going to be acquitted..... - 09/07/2013 08:54:18 PM 1482 Views
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Excellent response, you covered everything I would have wanted to. *NM* - 10/07/2013 06:48:15 PM 440 Views
Thanks *NM* - 11/07/2013 01:35:15 AM 343 Views
Nutty reply by you as usual.....but..... - 09/07/2013 10:36:45 PM 928 Views
coming from your side of the aisle, I take that as a compliment. :-) - 11/07/2013 12:18:07 AM 1133 Views
All right, let's talk about Yoda, this so-called 'wise' Jedi Grandmaster - 11/07/2013 01:34:57 AM 805 Views
Yep that Yoda. - 11/07/2013 02:26:03 AM 968 Views
It is a time-honoured US criminal justice tradition after all - 10/07/2013 10:06:35 PM 778 Views
The prosecution has been terrible in this case. It reminds me of the OJ prosecution. - 10/07/2013 10:58:50 PM 800 Views
When one person is on top of another beating him up..... - 11/07/2013 04:22:02 AM 838 Views
As a person who has been trying not to follow the case - 11/07/2013 04:07:01 PM 842 Views
Yeah, but you are forgetting something rather important - 11/07/2013 06:41:54 PM 882 Views
I am sorry but that is not quite true - 11/07/2013 07:10:19 PM 883 Views
Go review the timeline it is available online. *NM* - 11/07/2013 07:22:43 PM 340 Views
There is no call for self-defense for a fight you initiated yourself - 11/07/2013 06:34:46 PM 868 Views
Once again, following someone doesn't justify assault. - 11/07/2013 07:34:09 PM 745 Views
Thank god the perpetrator got shot - 11/07/2013 07:48:12 PM 801 Views
And once again, when did Zimmerman identify himself as the neighbourhood watchman? - 11/07/2013 08:59:28 PM 844 Views
He was under no legal obligation to do so. - 12/07/2013 01:39:45 AM 825 Views
He was also under no legal obligation to follow Martin, despite being neighbourhood watchman - 12/07/2013 05:15:00 PM 981 Views
Except that there is exactly zero evidence to support your scenario. - 12/07/2013 06:00:05 PM 887 Views
If you don't care one way or the other, why are you arguing so strongly for acquittal? - 12/07/2013 10:06:00 PM 827 Views
You covered several areas... - 12/07/2013 11:28:18 PM 832 Views
A couple of points... - 13/07/2013 12:15:47 AM 884 Views
I have to disagree about the manslaughter - 13/07/2013 12:45:32 AM 751 Views

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