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for me his about what will work not what is fair random thoughts Send a noteboard - 22/07/2013 06:06:13 PM

If we want to change the perception that young black males are violent then the behavior of young black males will need to change. Right or wrong people make judgments about people based on which groups they are perceived to belong to. Everyone does no matter if they want to admit it or not. As long as 6-7% of the population is committing half the violent crime it will be hard to change that. To make matters worse many none violent kids celebrate the gangster look and attitude and tie themselves closer to the idea that young black men are more likely to be violent. Of course not all or even most young black men are violent but the simple fact is people concerned when they are approached by a group of young blacks for a reason and as long as that is true perception will not change no matter how many people are called racist.

I have heard many people on tv asking what they should tell their son about keeping this from happening to them. Not once did I near the suggestion of not beating people who you think are following you.

I don't know if more can be done to right the very real wrongs of the past and I am under no delusions that things are all better now I just strongly believe the constant victim mentality and refusal to hold individuals responsible for their actions and instead seeing racism ìn is not the solution.

Obama is making things worse by making statements that imply he supports that attitude. The president in effect said he could have been the young man who was shot while beating someone. Either or he believes that despite the evidence Martin was an innocent young man gunned down for reason.

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"Trayvon Martin could have been me." President Obama - 19/07/2013 11:27:21 PM 1644 Views
My interpretation is that he's being incredibly racist...against blacks - 19/07/2013 11:52:37 PM 1013 Views
I think you're right - 19/07/2013 11:54:41 PM 902 Views
From the litlle I heard on NPR I had a couple real problems with it - 20/07/2013 12:53:40 AM 968 Views
Would he just shut up about it already? *pukes a little in mouth* *NM* - 20/07/2013 04:20:07 AM 409 Views
Yeah. As someone who voted for Obama and would do so again, this is embarrassing. - 20/07/2013 10:10:53 AM 831 Views
Ditto. Except I didn't vote for him a second time. - 21/07/2013 01:34:54 AM 936 Views
Does it matter now? Martin is still dead and Zimmerman will stay free. It's over. - 20/07/2013 04:24:43 AM 838 Views
It makes a great deal of difference - 20/07/2013 04:40:55 AM 893 Views
C'mon guys. It's sounding very "I'm not a racist, I swear!" in here. - 20/07/2013 03:32:08 PM 1023 Views
I can't like your reply enough. *NM* - 20/07/2013 03:42:00 PM 419 Views
"I am not a racist I swear it" is what we are reduced for not agreeing on race - 20/07/2013 04:44:52 PM 907 Views
No. As I'll say to Isaac in a minute, I'll apologize for lumping everyone in - 20/07/2013 08:06:49 PM 883 Views
for me his about what will work not what is fair - 22/07/2013 06:06:13 PM 937 Views
It has to be both. Period. Nobody will accept someone else trying to change them - 22/07/2013 07:29:15 PM 960 Views
sorry I don't see where he says a change in behaviour is part of the solution - 23/07/2013 06:29:16 PM 830 Views
He did not talk about the case - 23/07/2013 07:32:44 PM 839 Views
A touch over the top don't you think? - 20/07/2013 05:20:21 PM 867 Views
One comment, maybe. If anyone has taken offense - 20/07/2013 09:09:45 PM 869 Views
Re: One comment, maybe. If anyone has taken offense - 20/07/2013 11:53:08 PM 903 Views
As mentioned - 21/07/2013 12:18:14 AM 934 Views
Re: As mentioned - 21/07/2013 02:25:30 PM 859 Views
You just EXACTLY quoted the point I was making - 20/07/2013 06:04:25 PM 942 Views
Em... not so sure I did. - 20/07/2013 10:19:54 PM 786 Views
I think he's wrong for continuing to talk about it, and doing so in this manner - 21/07/2013 06:59:11 AM 993 Views
We will also have to agree to disagree. - 21/07/2013 10:25:13 AM 1002 Views
There are more important things for him to be focusing on, I think. That said, I think you're right. *NM* - 21/07/2013 08:16:34 AM 417 Views
There will always be something "more important." *NM* - 21/07/2013 10:25:46 AM 387 Views
That's specious reasoning. - 21/07/2013 12:02:17 PM 823 Views
It is if you sidestep my point. - 21/07/2013 05:15:19 PM 781 Views
I am of two minds on the issue. *edit* - 21/07/2013 02:04:48 PM 906 Views
Well, that's good. I feel like I'm working on 3 or 4 at this point. - 21/07/2013 05:41:21 PM 946 Views
I'm one of those annoying people who corrects others with "biracial". - 22/07/2013 08:03:10 PM 928 Views
That's not appropriate. Obama identifies as black. *NM* - 23/07/2013 06:22:06 AM 443 Views
So do lots of white kids. - 23/07/2013 08:50:12 AM 772 Views
It is the truth, though. - 23/07/2013 06:30:53 PM 835 Views
I do not agree. - 23/07/2013 07:06:33 PM 865 Views
I know, and I find that weird. - 23/07/2013 12:57:39 PM 877 Views
This is a complex issue. - 23/07/2013 01:09:00 PM 805 Views
Because he looks black, he's been treated like a black person. - 23/07/2013 06:28:41 PM 792 Views
Yes - 23/07/2013 07:11:54 PM 944 Views
Perusing. - 24/07/2013 04:02:53 AM 903 Views
That makes sense. Generally, though, one should go by whatever the person in question identifies as. *NM* - 24/07/2013 06:13:28 AM 402 Views
I noticed the press wasn't aboard with idea when it came to Zimmerman - 24/07/2013 12:49:00 PM 844 Views
Which is silly, because anyone can be racist. You are right, though. *NM* - 24/07/2013 10:32:55 PM 391 Views
No, only white people can be racist. /sarcasm - 25/07/2013 04:38:13 PM 869 Views
No, not really. - 26/07/2013 07:40:45 AM 772 Views
My reply to Nossy above. - 24/07/2013 02:25:49 PM 824 Views
As always, the voice of reason when I am about to discount the US as fucking mental. *NM* - 21/07/2013 03:17:15 PM 383 Views
That's not very nice. - 21/07/2013 09:03:55 PM 927 Views
No, probably not. - 21/07/2013 10:01:36 PM 842 Views
Its unfortunate you see us the way you do - 22/07/2013 06:05:30 AM 883 Views
So Obama smoked weed, punched school bus drivers, and got arrested for theft? - 21/07/2013 05:10:26 AM 814 Views
No, but he could have. - 21/07/2013 01:08:26 PM 772 Views

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