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To prove it was the right thing? Isaac Send a noteboard - 09/12/2013 07:12:34 PM

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View original postI'm still quite divided by Snowden.


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View original postHe said out loud what many have suspected for some time. But something about it still bothers me.


View original postSame, there is a feeling, I think, that his motivations weren't particularly brave or pure, and that he hadn't really exhausted legitimate channels first. I'm glad the excesses are coming to light, but his flight, justified by fairly over the top claims of fear of torture and assassination, all couple to other things making him seem less a whistle blower and more anti-American. As soon as he was a international celebrity his most ethical choice would have been to come home and face the music, torture and assassination obviously being off the table at that point, though I don't think they ever were.




View original postThe most anti-American thing to do would be want to send him to prison. Especially given the inhumane treatment that Bradley Manning has faced.

Showing himself willing to stand trial would prove to many that he was acting out of conscious, sacrificing his well being for the good of the nation, not from an ax to grind or similar, which is my own impression right now.

As to Manning, my opinion of him is not positive. Snowden I'm still undecided on.

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Guardian person of the year - 09/12/2013 02:52:49 PM 1036 Views
Good choice. Snowden is a true patriot. - 09/12/2013 03:13:15 PM 652 Views
You know.... - 09/12/2013 04:11:09 PM 632 Views
It's because I have libertarian(ish) leanings that - 09/12/2013 04:36:13 PM 710 Views
Agreed - 09/12/2013 05:38:36 PM 651 Views
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To prove it was the right thing? - 09/12/2013 07:12:34 PM 591 Views
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Better for who? - 09/12/2013 09:51:09 PM 635 Views
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Screw that. He's not obligated to martyr himself. - 11/12/2013 06:23:43 PM 587 Views
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Well... - 10/12/2013 01:07:46 AM 695 Views
Snowden is most despicable? - 10/12/2013 02:11:35 AM 652 Views
Re: Well... - 11/12/2013 12:54:52 AM 662 Views
It's the Guardian, so this isn't very surprising or conclusive - 10/12/2013 02:15:56 AM 615 Views
I couldn't agree more - 11/12/2013 12:47:25 AM 549 Views
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While i have mixed feelings about Snowden - 12/12/2013 04:56:37 PM 595 Views

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