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Funny, that's pretty much how a lot of people here feel about unions too. Legolas Send a noteboard - 18/02/2014 08:35:54 PM

View original postI worked in a union shop and I did not enjoy it. Rules before common sense and senority before everything else. They created sensless busy work to protect jobs and ended with our shop shutdown because it was so much cheaper to outsource. In theory I support the idea of unions. I dont support public sector unions atleast not ones active in politics but if America could reinvent its unions I might change my opinions worker councils might be a start.

Except that, you know, unions have a lot more power here. In general, anyway, in the car industry the difference's probably not that big.

And in the case of teacher unions ours might actually be a lot less powerful - a recent Economist article had some completely crazy statistics about the performance of a charter school compared to that of a public one it was sharing premises with (in Chicago, I think, or maybe NYC). Not that the teacher's union is the only difference there necessarily - parents who put their children in the charter school might just be more motivated and help them more - but surely it must be a big part of it.

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Volkswagen workers reject United Auto Workers - Anonymous2000 - 17/02/2014 02:42:20 PM 887 Views
Are you still doing these? *NM* TheCrownless - 17/02/2014 06:31:29 PM 302 Views
It's either these or no posts..... *NM* Anonymous2000 - 17/02/2014 06:54:54 PM 210 Views
Even if that theory did hold up to testing TheCrownless - 17/02/2014 07:01:18 PM 497 Views
I dunno, I was kind of curious how the first American "works council" would work out. Legolas - 17/02/2014 06:57:15 PM 532 Views
if American unions were not so bad they would have more support random thoughts - 18/02/2014 02:27:52 AM 477 Views
Funny, that's pretty much how a lot of people here feel about unions too. Legolas - 18/02/2014 08:35:54 PM 530 Views
So out of curiosity, you are totally against all unions? *NM* beetnemesis - 18/02/2014 02:39:45 AM 208 Views
Can't say I am against "ALL", but I can't think of any I would support..... Anonymous2000 - 18/02/2014 04:47:39 AM 466 Views
How do you think things like benefits, salary, working conditions, etc. should be negotiated, then? *NM* beetnemesis - 18/02/2014 06:44:04 PM 206 Views
omost workers in the US don't belong to unions random thoughts - 18/02/2014 08:13:19 PM 491 Views
So your argument is basically "let market forces do their work?" beetnemesis - 19/02/2014 02:43:09 AM 523 Views
sorry but I did not make an argument I answered your question random thoughts - 19/02/2014 04:21:04 AM 496 Views
Agreed. public sector unions should be outlawed.....even FDR was against them. Anonymous2000 - 19/02/2014 01:03:56 PM 517 Views
But your original post was about an Auto Workers union, right? beetnemesis - 19/02/2014 02:10:54 PM 491 Views
(brain fart, I thought you were Anonymous 2000) *NM* beetnemesis - 19/02/2014 02:08:36 PM 202 Views
How would you prefer them to work? Any specific country? *NM* beetnemesis - 19/02/2014 02:09:40 PM 210 Views
more informal and less focus on senority and following every rule to the letter random thoughts - 19/02/2014 04:49:48 PM 576 Views
I never really understood unions MrFarstrider - 19/02/2014 03:10:27 PM 515 Views
It's not too difficult beetnemesis - 19/02/2014 08:54:16 PM 476 Views
In regards to working conditions.... Jeordam - 20/02/2014 04:09:58 PM 552 Views
So, government regulation beetnemesis - 20/02/2014 06:07:43 PM 549 Views
most conservative support the idea of regulations random thoughts - 20/02/2014 11:30:42 PM 454 Views
Ha! Well, yeah, can't really disagree there. *NM* beetnemesis - 21/02/2014 02:37:52 AM 239 Views
I understand what a labor union does MrFarstrider - 21/02/2014 11:36:20 PM 493 Views
I hate public sector unions. They should be put to death. AgentApple - 24/02/2014 07:47:28 AM 597 Views
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