Funny, that's pretty much how a lot of people here feel about unions too.
Legolas Send a noteboard - 18/02/2014 08:35:54 PM
View original postI worked in a union shop and I did not enjoy it. Rules before common sense and senority before everything else. They created sensless busy work to protect jobs and ended with our shop shutdown because it was so much cheaper to outsource. In theory I support the idea of unions. I dont support public sector unions atleast not ones active in politics but if America could reinvent its unions I might change my opinions worker councils might be a start.
Except that, you know, unions have a lot more power here. In general, anyway, in the car industry the difference's probably not that big.
And in the case of teacher unions ours might actually be a lot less powerful - a recent Economist article had some completely crazy statistics about the performance of a charter school compared to that of a public one it was sharing premises with (in Chicago, I think, or maybe NYC). Not that the teacher's union is the only difference there necessarily - parents who put their children in the charter school might just be more motivated and help them more - but surely it must be a big part of it.
Volkswagen workers reject United Auto Workers - 
- 17/02/2014 02:42:20 PM
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- 17/02/2014 02:42:20 PM
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Are you still doing these? *NM*
- 17/02/2014 06:31:29 PM
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I dunno, I was kind of curious how the first American "works council" would work out.
- 17/02/2014 06:57:15 PM
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if American unions were not so bad they would have more support
- 18/02/2014 02:27:52 AM
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Funny, that's pretty much how a lot of people here feel about unions too.
- 18/02/2014 08:35:54 PM
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So out of curiosity, you are totally against all unions? *NM*
- 18/02/2014 02:39:45 AM
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Can't say I am against "ALL", but I can't think of any I would support.....
- 18/02/2014 04:47:39 AM
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How do you think things like benefits, salary, working conditions, etc. should be negotiated, then? *NM*
- 18/02/2014 06:44:04 PM
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omost workers in the US don't belong to unions
- 18/02/2014 08:13:19 PM
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So your argument is basically "let market forces do their work?"
- 19/02/2014 02:43:09 AM
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sorry but I did not make an argument I answered your question
- 19/02/2014 04:21:04 AM
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Agreed. public sector unions should be outlawed.....even FDR was against them.
- 19/02/2014 01:03:56 PM
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How would you prefer them to work? Any specific country? *NM*
- 19/02/2014 02:09:40 PM
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more informal and less focus on senority and following every rule to the letter
- 19/02/2014 04:49:48 PM
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I never really understood unions
- 19/02/2014 03:10:27 PM
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It's not too difficult
- 19/02/2014 08:54:16 PM
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In regards to working conditions....
- 20/02/2014 04:09:58 PM
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So, government regulation
- 20/02/2014 06:07:43 PM
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