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They're flawed, sure, but they're the best we have. Legolas Send a noteboard - 17/09/2014 09:46:34 PM

View original postThere is no doubt that carbon is a green house gas but the problem is we don't understand climate no matter how many experts sign petitions. The climate science stopped being science and became an anti carbon fuel political movement so now have nothing but BS and propaganda. Why do so many people put so much faith in models that have proven 90% in accurate? Because it tells them what they want to hear.

Why do they "want to hear" that, though? Sure, some people are just reflexively anti-big oil, but still, that stance does illustrate that trying to prevent global warming also has useful side effects in simply limiting pollution.

Climate change has become a political issue for both sides - one of those things you can't really afford not to have any opinion on, even though very few people have even half a clue about the details (and I won't pretend to be among them). But in terms of "telling them what they want to hear", the climate change deniers who use any flaw in the model as an excuse to not cut down on emissions are certainly more open to that accusation than the supporters, whose stance after all does require them to make at least some sacrifices and try to cut emissions. Though when it actually comes down to making real changes in their lifestyle, I agree that not too many even among the "believers" walk the walk - eating more local and less exotic food, using their cars less, wasting less energy on their personal comforts, and so on.

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The "settled science" of climate change continues to unravel..... - 16/09/2014 07:00:16 PM 1034 Views
What utter rubbish - 16/09/2014 08:54:22 PM 712 Views
By the time my daughter is 50'ish..... - 17/09/2014 04:08:35 AM 677 Views
tell the people of norfolk, VA that climate change isn't happening - 18/09/2014 12:12:45 AM 838 Views
So if we are the only deniers I expect to see rapid and dramatic decrease in the carbon? - 17/09/2014 08:39:30 PM 717 Views
The Chinese will take action - they have not much choice anymore. - 17/09/2014 09:51:10 PM 697 Views
Reducing pollution doesn't exactly mean cutting CO2..... - 18/09/2014 04:09:58 AM 662 Views
don't consufe glaobal warming with air pollution - 18/09/2014 03:45:53 PM 677 Views
I don't know anyone that would call me right wing - 27/09/2014 05:15:21 AM 852 Views
If by "unravel" you mean that it's more complex than it seemed at first, then yes. - 17/09/2014 08:04:24 PM 639 Views
The probelm is the models suck and they are beingt over sold - 17/09/2014 08:43:56 PM 648 Views
They're flawed, sure, but they're the best we have. - 17/09/2014 09:46:34 PM 712 Views
the problem is that people like yourself refuse to believe that science works - 17/09/2014 11:57:11 PM 715 Views
that was 90% inaccurate - 18/09/2014 03:39:35 PM 652 Views
"More complex" is a coward's way of saying we were wrong..... - 18/09/2014 04:22:00 AM 650 Views
If by coward you mean scientist, then sure. - 18/09/2014 06:10:30 AM 733 Views

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