Motivation is irrelevant to bravery. Only the obstacles to the motivation matter.
Burr Send a noteboard - 15/10/2014 01:15:33 PM
Even if they truly were motivated by fear of pain and embarrassment (which I think is a rather poor caricature of suicidal people), nonetheless they also must conquer fears that are obstacles to the act of suicide, such as fear of death, fear of shame, fear for family, etc.
Such bravery is not necessarily something that should be encouraged, but it still fits the definition of bravery. So I'll agree with you on your broader point that we should be careful how we use virtue words.
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Only so evil.
Only so evil.
What is "brave" about avoiding pain or embarassment?
- 10/10/2014 02:07:50 AM
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The word "brave", like the word "hero", was destroyed in the 1980s or so.
- 10/10/2014 02:38:49 PM
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What Tom said. I will say, though, that while I don't think I would use the word brave...
- 10/10/2014 04:55:23 PM
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I really do hate that words are being intentionally misconstrued to alter the tone of conversations.
- 11/10/2014 02:03:32 AM
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No evidence of a 'God', no point projecting your morality on to others
- 13/10/2014 06:54:31 PM
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Which is not remotely what I was doing.
- 13/10/2014 11:15:48 PM
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You were doing it plenty, it made up 75% of your post
- 14/10/2014 01:37:28 AM
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Well, it's always nice to see new people here, since you plainly don't know me at all...
- 15/10/2014 10:09:18 AM
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For the same reason you feel like you can apply your morals to suicide.
- 17/10/2014 12:51:37 AM
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Motivation is irrelevant to bravery. Only the obstacles to the motivation matter.
- 15/10/2014 01:15:33 PM
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I'm confused. Are you saying there is no such thing as courage? *NM*
- 16/10/2014 02:25:36 AM
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