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Implicit in your posts seems to be the assumption that crime rates and arrest rates are equal Ghavrel Send a noteboard - 06/12/2014 09:26:13 AM

or at least close to equal. But we know that isn't the case.

I am exhausted and halfway through my law exams. So I apologize for any want of clarity or organization.

I'm not disputing what seems to be the general consensus that blacks are responsible for more crime in the US than whites. But evidence exists showing that blacks are stopped by police more often than whites.

To use marijuana usage as an example: Blacks are arrested four times as often for marijuana usage as whites. By the reasoning I've seen in this thread, that means blacks commit the crime of marijuana use much more than whites. But in fact blacks and whites use marijuana at similar rates. (A decent article from the Times on the phenomenon: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/04/us/marijuana-arrests-four-times-as-likely-for-blacks.html )

In short, it doesn't follow from the fact that blacks are arrested more than whites that they in fact commit more crimes than whites. And although evidence suggests that they do commit more crimes than whites, using arrests as a measure of determining the proportion is an inaccurate method.

"We feel safe when we read what we recognise, what does not challenge our way of thinking.... a steady acceptance of pre-arranged patterns leads to the inability to question what we are told."
~Camilla

Ghavrel is Ghavrel is Ghavrel

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New York cop pushes black man's face into pavement and chokes him to death for selling cigerettes - 04/12/2014 12:03:54 AM 1351 Views
What does his color have to do with anything? - 04/12/2014 07:37:08 AM 864 Views
A short answer for your long post - 04/12/2014 04:43:12 PM 726 Views
123 blacks shot to death by cops in 2012; 326 whites. - 05/12/2014 12:40:56 AM 832 Views
These numbers make me angry. - 05/12/2014 05:39:26 AM 715 Views
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It doesn't matter why. - 05/12/2014 03:19:54 PM 902 Views
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Danger is my middle name. *NM* - 05/12/2014 04:47:23 PM 377 Views
But that's a completely separate issue than the one that the post is talking about. - 05/12/2014 05:12:44 PM 843 Views
Heh, yes. Because none of us ever adds layers to these posts. Ever. - 05/12/2014 07:34:04 PM 748 Views
That is SUCH A BAD SENTENCE. - 05/12/2014 08:07:18 PM 731 Views
I'm not Tom - 05/12/2014 10:13:43 PM 670 Views
Thus spake Patsy Stone! - 05/12/2014 10:15:44 PM 688 Views
Sweetie Darling - 05/12/2014 10:16:34 PM 575 Views
Okay. I can agree that we do go on tangents. - 05/12/2014 10:23:21 PM 993 Views
Re: "Proportions, man." - 05/12/2014 03:34:16 PM 932 Views
So what you have implied here then is that - 05/12/2014 04:05:10 PM 727 Views
That's a fair assumption to make *shrug* *NM* - 07/12/2014 05:35:59 PM 486 Views
And now you're the one doing exactly what you implied Cannoli was doing. - 05/12/2014 05:17:25 PM 641 Views
Implicit in your posts seems to be the assumption that crime rates and arrest rates are equal - 06/12/2014 09:26:13 AM 801 Views
If you want to keep getting deeper in the weeds..... - 06/12/2014 07:28:49 PM 620 Views
the problem with your example is it the execption not the rule - 08/12/2014 02:40:14 PM 671 Views
I don't have any proof of that either way. I agree that broken window policing plays a role. *NM* - 09/12/2014 12:25:14 AM 272 Views
They question is it it worth the cost? - 09/12/2014 04:40:02 PM 528 Views
...I'm doing no such thing. - 07/12/2014 05:27:13 PM 819 Views
L-Dog is right, you are wrong, look at the proportion of crimes committed..... - 05/12/2014 06:30:29 PM 721 Views
Erm, no. - 07/12/2014 05:34:38 PM 922 Views
Unbelievable. I have no words... *NM* - 04/12/2014 10:15:32 AM 577 Views
he was not choked to death and he was not choked for selling cigerettes - 04/12/2014 02:28:44 PM 667 Views
I mean, "Killed him without intent" is pretty much the definition of manslaughter, isn't it? *NM* - 04/12/2014 04:44:18 PM 391 Views
sorry but it isn't - 04/12/2014 05:54:27 PM 645 Views
did you actually watch the video of his death? - 04/12/2014 06:30:26 PM 719 Views
OK watched it all the way. Which one of my conclusions were suppossed to change? - 04/12/2014 07:39:07 PM 586 Views
sorry, i mistook you for a human capable of compassion. my mistake - 04/12/2014 07:47:35 PM 613 Views
Don't worry I don't mistaake you for someone capable of rational thought - 04/12/2014 10:56:44 PM 608 Views

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