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why only some child molesters? random thoughts Send a noteboard - 17/07/2015 05:40:21 PM

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View original postBut sorry I have to disagree that taxes had anything to with this. If Garner had not been selling loose cigarettes he would have been hustling something else. He wasn't hustling because of excessive taxes he was hustling because it was easier than honest and work and it allowed him to hang out on the street with his buddies.
He was selling goods for money. There's nothing dishonest about that. There's no indication he stole the cigarettes or did anything dishonestly. And even if he was a scumbag, that has nothing to do with anything. Scumbags are entitled to equal protection under the law.


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The real problem isn't tax on smokes it is the idea tat it is OK to give away millions of dollars in tax payer's money to one family
If there was no tax on cigarettes, we would not have to do that. It's like walking through a bad neighborhood in a short skirt or with a visible wad of money. Getting robbed and raped is not fair, it is not right, you didn't deserve that and you should not have had to suffer that loss...but that would not have happened without your risky behavior in the first place.


View original postAnd yes, that totally goes for Garner as well. I would not have given a dime to his family had I been running things in New York, but as the sort of person who does not go around trying to police whatever people want to put in their own bodies, I am obviously ill-suited to hold any sort of power in New York.


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simply because he was so unhealthy that his body couldn't handle that rather the fight he created when he resisted arrest. Regardless of the media inspired hysteria the Kool-Aid swelling masses sucked down they man was not choked to death and his poor health and bad decision making was the not only the main reason he dies
Bad health, and poor decision-making that were only fatal because he was being picked on by a squad of cops because apparently all the rapists, muggers and purveyors of drugs that are actually illegal had gone home for the day, so there were no lives or livelihoods for the NYPD to be protecting.


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but the over whelming reason he died. Of course the same dimwits who believe his family should the win the dead dad lottery also believe Michael Brown was murdered and Travon martin was shot for wearing a hoody.


View original postThe man died because of the state's obscene interest in private activities and transactions. Better the state pay, than foisting the blame on their henchmen who were only following orders. I am totally in agreement with the cops' innocence in the matter (to a degree - he should have been raised up as soon as he was cuffed. Once someone is a prisoner, his captors have a moral obligation to his health & well-being, because they have abrogated his ability to care for himself), but they should never have been in that position. The only people who deserve to die for their actions are daredevils, abortionists, military criminals, some child molesters and of course, actual murderers that mostly everyone agrees on.

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So Eric Garner's family is getting $5.9 million dollars. How awesome is that? Cannoli - 16/07/2015 03:10:14 PM 894 Views
...? *NM* Danu - 16/07/2015 07:09:33 PM 319 Views
we need to stop giving away millions tax dollars and calling it justice random thoughts - 17/07/2015 01:14:39 AM 446 Views
Right: Enough with the free lottery giveaways already! Joel - 17/07/2015 11:17:00 AM 565 Views
If you want to make people millionaire because family memeber died fighting the cops random thoughts - 17/07/2015 05:34:06 PM 561 Views
Kill someone who is not threatening you and you are liable; it is pretty straightforward Joel - 18/07/2015 03:44:26 AM 533 Views
saying stupid things with conviction does not make them less stupid random thoughts - 18/07/2015 01:23:36 PM 441 Views
Even so Joel - 09/08/2015 04:16:32 AM 554 Views
so because you didn't see the video of him selling loose cigarettes you assume the police lied? *NM* random thoughts - 09/08/2015 03:18:00 PM 228 Views
Selling loose cigarettes is no crime, but unproven=/=dishonest: Proven=/=justifiable homicide either Joel - 10/08/2015 08:53:07 AM 638 Views
IDK, I got the impression hustle was a good thing Cannoli - 17/07/2015 12:42:07 PM 623 Views
I bitched about going Off-Topic the last time I posted on this board... TyrReborn - 17/07/2015 05:22:29 PM 603 Views
Are you being ironic? Cannoli - 18/07/2015 01:14:07 PM 615 Views
No, I am being 100% serious. TyrReborn - 19/07/2015 04:43:13 PM 616 Views
A murderer is not going to be murdering anyone else. THAT is the point, not punishment. Cannoli - 22/07/2015 11:23:05 AM 469 Views
Re: A murderer is not going to be murdering anyone else. THAT is the point, not punishment. TyrReborn - 23/07/2015 04:44:52 AM 540 Views
This is why the Catholic Church opposes capital punishment AND abortion equally Joel - 10/08/2015 09:30:47 AM 548 Views
Will no one rid you of these troublesome abortionists, eh? Joel - 10/08/2015 09:12:23 AM 545 Views
So what do you think he would have doing for money without the tax? random thoughts - 17/07/2015 05:39:33 PM 526 Views
Who cares? That's his business. Cannoli - 18/07/2015 01:16:44 PM 614 Views
You seem to care since you brought it up random thoughts - 18/07/2015 01:28:46 PM 593 Views
why only some child molesters? random thoughts - 17/07/2015 05:40:21 PM 591 Views
All actual child molesters, not all who are convicted of such offenses. Cannoli - 18/07/2015 01:26:25 PM 580 Views
That is a problem with most sexual assualt not to mention doemstic abuse cases *NM* random thoughts - 18/07/2015 01:40:43 PM 293 Views
That is two jobs, not one; also, the government does not lobby itself. Joel - 17/07/2015 03:09:15 AM 512 Views
the silly "unarmed" argument random thoughts - 17/07/2015 04:57:32 AM 584 Views
All I heard was "no one 'needs' guns." Joel - 17/07/2015 10:59:40 AM 682 Views
See, these are tyranny, because the cops picked the fights. Cannoli - 17/07/2015 02:09:21 PM 561 Views
Cops picked their fight with Garner, too: Why is that not tyranny? Joel - 18/07/2015 03:33:52 AM 566 Views
Re: Cops picked their fight with Garner, too: Why is that not tyranny? Cannoli - 18/07/2015 01:59:41 PM 595 Views
The above question remains, unanswered Joel - 09/08/2015 04:20:37 AM 592 Views
Sorry but almost everything you said was wrong random thoughts - 18/07/2015 02:48:44 PM 603 Views
... was exactly that. Joel - 09/08/2015 04:23:54 AM 530 Views
Sorry but almost everything you said was wrong random thoughts - 18/07/2015 02:48:45 PM 586 Views
OK Not an respond to what I said? random thoughts - 17/07/2015 05:29:55 PM 591 Views
Sure it was: Since the unarmed and armed have equally lethal force, guns are needless Joel - 18/07/2015 03:40:10 AM 532 Views
sorry I didn't realize you are using the some cops did bad things so all cops do bad things argument random thoughts - 18/07/2015 01:56:31 PM 543 Views
No one said that, but arguing "most cops do nothing wrong so no cops do anything wrong" is false too Joel - 09/08/2015 04:46:49 AM 676 Views
You need to be 'in name' before you can be 'in name only' Cannoli - 17/07/2015 12:57:55 PM 611 Views
There is that, but few LINOs acknowledge the name is only that Joel - 18/07/2015 03:33:40 AM 528 Views
My point about the cops was addressing the thing that's a problem for the rest of us. Cannoli - 18/07/2015 02:04:52 PM 557 Views
BOTH are problems for everyone; one is just more serious because systemic and promoting the other Joel - 09/08/2015 04:25:00 AM 562 Views
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